clayton8321 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The reason I ask is because for some time now a lot of Villa supports want Lerner to sell the club. I recently came across a Man City fan who now supports Bradford because as he once supported the Blues he didn't like the fact that if the club were to win a trophy, it would feel more "bought" then anything else. It didn't seem earned. He says he was happy to see City win the Premier League crown, but he wasn't estatic. I'll admit, I've come across Chelski and City supporters who boast about their success but I respond with the usual, "bought" response, just to shut their gloryhunter mouth up Is it jealousy or reality? I don't know.. but if Bill Gates were to buy Villa and we'd start winning titles, I would still support VIlla just as much and boast, but feel a bit hypercritical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 We all want rich owners who will invest heavily. Heck, I thought we had one when Lerner took over. However, some rich owners are richer than others and I guess there must be some invisible cut off line between 'earning it' with a rich owner and 'buying it' with a rich owner. One thing is for certain, a high degree of richness is now a necessity if any club is to have the slightest chance of winning anything. Long gone are the days when the likes of Ron Saunders could win the league with just 14 players and the most expensive one being a mere £500,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 dont forget that club made on the back on man utd, cant remember what its called now, something something of manchester, i once went to a burger van in manchester, the guy recognised my accent and asked me what team i supported, he then told me why he stopped supporting man utd i cant see anyone coming to buy villa at the moment, randy is basically stuck with us, so hes going to have to spend, nobody will want to buy this club the state it is in but no, my opinion wouldnt change, it would be nice to buy a trophy or buy the league, its better than fighting relegation, nor would i give a flying fu ck what other supporters would say, wed have a cup or league title, whos cares if its bought, wed only be copying man utd, chelsea or man city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton8321 Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 True. But when the likes of City and Chelski win trophies, do you eye it as "tainted" or well deserved in this new era of footie? Btw.. I'd still like to think Ron Saunders can win the Champions League trophy with our current side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton8321 Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 dont forget that club made on the back on man utd, cant remember what its called now, something something of manchester, i once went to a burger van in manchester, the guy recognised my accent and asked me what team i supported, he then told me why he stopped supporting man utd i cant see anyone coming to buy villa at the moment, randy is basically stuck with us, so hes going to have to spend, nobody will want to buy this club the state it is in but no, my opinion wouldnt change, it would be nice to buy a trophy or buy the league, its better than fighting relegation, nor would i give a flying fu ck what other supporters would say, wed have a cup or league title, whos cares if its bought, wed only be copying man utd, chelsea or man city I guess you can add any "massive" club to that occasion. That's why, although it wouldn't happen in a billion years, I'm really rooting for Atletico Madrid this season. So why did the guy stop supporting Man United? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjenkins Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I guess my answer depends on the type of owner we get, in terms of what they do for the community and how much time as well as money they put into the club. To be honest though, in a lot of ways Randy Lerner is a good custodian for this football club, and whilst I would like to see a team full of high calibre footballers, I'd happily support Villa forever whether we were challenging for the Premier League or the Blue Square Premier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recircle Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Oil billionaires should buy every club. Level the playing field and get rid of the pecking order, which is becoming stultifying. Just one more super rich club is such a unilateral solution to a club's problems. Increase the unpredictability (viz. excitement) of the Premier League. Edited December 30, 2012 by deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 couldnt give a shit as long as we win stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Every club that wins the premier league has bought it and spent a shit ton of cash to get where they are. Give me a bloke with a ton of cash and us actually winning some games all day long. London and Manchester have billionaire owners, the West Midlands area has to be next and Id think it would be us. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 couldnt give a shit as long as we win stuff Really? I honestly couldn't give a shit whether we win anything or not. It's the crushing pain of acceptance that we probably won't that I'm finding hard to stomach right now. I'll love this club till the day I do, even if they move the **** thing to Milton Keynes. I'd follow. No AFC Aston Villa for me, there will only ever be one. Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Winning something seems a million miles away ..scoring a goal and not conceding a cricket score would be a bloody start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 It would be a dream come true to become that shallow glory hunting hypocritical villa fan. Part of me thought we had it when Lerner took over. I dream of Arabs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Which club has ever won anything and they have earned it not bought it n one way or another? As long as there has been transfers of players for fees then having the most money has been the name of the game. Money to attract the best manager or coach or scout, money to buy the best players. Just that it is so pronounced now, that money is at a higher level Han it has ever been. When we won the league sure our most expensive player was 500k but he wasn't the only one we had bought. Was our manager and his team 'home grown in Aston '? . What wages and bonuses were they on? Huge amounts for he time iirc. I support villa and always will. I do want us to win things though in my lifetime but that will take real money at some stage for it to be consistent , even if it is money just to retain the good players we have developed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Oh no I would much rather we languish around the relegation zone and broke than have exciting players and potentially win the league and champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I wonder if the 40 odd thousand Man City fans packed into the Etihad against QPR last season give a shit that they have effectively bought the league. I know I wouldn't care if Villa had a cash injection as we certainly need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutherland Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) dont forget that club made on the back on man utd, cant remember what its called now, something something of manchester, i once went to a burger van in manchester, the guy recognised my accent and asked me what team i supported, he then told me why he stopped supporting man utd i cant see anyone coming to buy villa at the moment, randy is basically stuck with us, so hes going to have to spend, nobody will want to buy this club the state it is in but no, my opinion wouldnt change, it would be nice to buy a trophy or buy the league, its better than fighting relegation, nor would i give a flying fu ck what other supporters would say, wed have a cup or league title, whos cares if its bought, wed only be copying man utd, chelsea or man city I dont think we will break away and call ourselfs Fc Villa Of Aston!.. But we cant be run anymore micky mouse than we have been in the last 6-7 years. Jesus, I hope doug aint spent all the cash and is gonna make an offer to dumb and dumber to get our club back!.. Edited December 30, 2012 by sutherland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 To be honest these days mega rich bastards cant buy you the league any more. Mega rich people can get you competing with the other top teams who also have mega rich bastards running them and give you a "chance" to win the league I would much rather compete with the likes of man utd, man city and Chelsea than the likes of Wigan, QPR and reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 We already have a lot more money than a number of other clubs. Aren't we in the top 6 spend over the last 5 or 6 years. We wouldn't consider any success "bought" now so why would a lot more money be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted December 30, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2012 Even with super-rich owners, it wouldn't be easy to buy trophies. We'd have to build a side, who would need time to gel, which would take time. Then we'd still have to compete with Man United, Man City and Chelsea domestically, while Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs will usually provide further competition for the top four spots. If we were to get into Champions League, then we'd still have to prove ourselves better than several fantastic teams from across Europe. However, for the reasons above, I don't think we're going to see too many more mega-rich foreign owners coming in, especially if they're expecting to win something very quickly. There's so much competition that you could easily spend the best part of half a billion quid over a couple of seasons and not necessarily bring in any major trophies. This is clearly a major factor in why Randy has, understandably, decided to stop throwing money at the club. Also, while Man City have spent far more than they've made, they have still done a lot to improve various areas of the club and community. I don't think Mancini will be there come the start of next season, but the owners have stuck with him so far and not been in the limelight for poor decisions. They certainly don't seem to be running the club as a rich man's plaything, and while I don't like the fact that they can just come in with money that effectively blew us and other clubs way off course, they do seem like fantastic owners when you look at it impartially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Winning something seems a million miles away We are in the semis on of the capital one cup, I'd say we have a chance of winning that cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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