The_Steve Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 People are fixating on the scoreline far too much. Before today we were unbeaten in 5 games. Up until today we were playing some good football. I'm more interested in how Lambert and the players react in the next game. Nobody loves losing heavily but it's one of those things. Onwards and hopefully upwards from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I think it's fair to expect to lose the European champions away and a hammering is hardly a complete shock either . Obviously no one is expected to be happy with the manner of defeat but a realist will tell you we are miles behind Chelsea. Fair enough, you can't accept the result . What is the next step then in your phase of unacceptance ? I can't see any other outcome other than accepting the result to be honest . What else can we do other than have a hissy fit about it ? That is the biggest load of bollocks I could have read. We are miles behind Liverpool too. Its called competeing...There is a gulf in quality between both teams but , 1-3 v 8-0 for me there was a clear display of a lack of application. We all love to see superlative football.... but the job today was close them down and deny them any space.. wait c 20 minutes see how things are before we counter attack. **** me.... we give every chelsea player the sahara **** desert to play in. 8 was a disgrace on the back of a 1-3 at Liverpool. I was hoping for a draw ... expecting a professional low key approach to stopping them playing. WORK IN PROGRESS ... OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 To be fair, they should refund the fans for that. Guzan is the only one to come out of that with any dignity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 They didn't mean to lose 8-0, and it wasn't as if they didn't try. This kind of thing is nonsense. You pay your money, you take your chances. I disagree. They DIDN'T try. Our pans pay good, hard earned money to get to these games. This was shocking and the players should cough up because they do not deserve their salary this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Sheer lunacy today going forward. Full backs and centre mids bombing on as if we were still in the game and it was 4-0. What the **** we were playing at? Passing was all over the place today, especially second half. The amount of misplaced passes from the 3 centre halves was shocking. Guzan - 7. Great penalty save. Lowton - 4. Meh. Clark - 3. Meh. Baker - 3. Meh. Herd - 1. Shite. Can't wait for Vlaar to be back. Lichaj - 3. Dreadful going forward. Holman - 2. Scrappy player. Bannan - 6. Thought he was one of our lot that looked like he cared today, did not stop running. Westwood - 5. Why the **** was he taken off? Weimann - 4. Toiled but battled well. Denied from a great save from Cech. Benteke - 1. Worst I've seen him play. Couldn't stay on side for toffee. Subs: Ireland - 3. Nothing. Bennett - 0. Worst player on the pitch. Bowery - N/A. Feel sorry for him. Not needed. Lambert - 1. I do like how he encourages us to keep going forward but we needed him to tell us to shut up shop and he didn't. Didn't agree with Westwood for Ireland, should've been Holman off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 That is the biggest load of bollocks I could have read. We are miles behind Liverpool too. Its called competeing...There is a gulf in quality between both teams but , 1-3 v 8-0 for me there was a clear display of a lack of application. We all love to see superlative football.... but the job today was close them down and deny them any space.. wait c 20 minutes see how things are before we counter attack. **** me.... we give every chelsea player the sahara **** desert to play in. 8 was a disgrace on the back of a 1-3 at Liverpool. I was hoping for a draw ... expecting a professional low key approach to stopping them playing. WORK IN PROGRESS ... OK I see you have chosen the hissy fit option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I see you have chosen the hissy fit option. You feel little emotion when your club do badly. Others don't. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Benteke was appalling today. All he did was get caught offside and diffuse pretty much all of our attacking moves. A stark reminder that he's only 21 and inexperienced at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I have a feeling that if we'd just scored more goals in one game than we'd ever done before i wouldn't be reading complaints about focusing on the scoreline or claiming that no matter how many we score a win is still just a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2012 That team is the strongest in the league and I wouldn't be surprised to see them put more past another team this season. Let's learn from our mistakes and move on. And let's strengthen in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Don't let this result somehow affect your memory of last week. We played Liverpool off the park last week and thoroughly deserved a victory. Don't say that was luck just because we got annihilated today. That is half the problem with the fickle fans label. We didn't play Liverpool off the park, they played us off the park( in possession/territory terms) we just caught them on the break ( and a greta result too)... our smash and grab strikes again. until we sign some top quality midfielders it will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I have a feeling that if we'd just scored more goals in one game than we'd ever done before i wouldn't be reading complaints about focusing on the scoreline or claiming that no matter how many we score a win is still just a win. Probably because if you look back at our recent history getting hammered is far more common than us hammering other teams. I don't know why but for quite a years now we've been prone to just collapsing in games from time to time. Doesn't seem to matter who the manager is or who's playing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Well, I forked out £75 to watch that - one of my few chances to watch Villa live this season. Essentially, Villa provided Chelsea with a fairly leisurely training session. The defence was utterly woeful. Lambert needs to recognise quickly that we are leaving a massive space in the centre of the pitch in front of the penalty area. I couldn't even work out who was supposed to be defending it. Piazon in particular exploited it massively when he came on. The only positive I take from this is that it will - hopefuly - put a stop to the absurd hype there has been around the team over the past couple of weeks. Essentially we are a team of youth team graduates, lower league improvers and one or two overseas players who have shown a bit of potential. A side capable if holding our own in the premier league? You wouldn't want to invest your life savings in it. Edit - oh, btw, no MOTM today. The very idea is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Very very disappointing. Far to open against a close passing Chelsea side Seemed to give in before we begun PL has some work to do. Didn't expect anything today but certainly didn't expect us to ship 8 either We need to put in a performance against Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Tottenham boxing day then.... Hope we can recover from today and get a point. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl1304 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 At least it will really show Lerner how desperate we are for new players in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 There is half the problem with the fickle fans label. We didn't play Liverpool off the park, they played us off the park( in possession/territory terms) we just caught them on the break ( and a greta result too)... our smash and grab strikes again. until we sign some top quality midfielders it will never change. I see you have chosen the hissy fit option. and proud of it.... because i think it was deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 We kept attacking at 4-0 down, but thats not why we conceded another 4 that was down too, actually all 8 goals were down to no one in our midfield pressuring the ball with any commitment, even holmann, who runs his balls off looked like he couldn't give a **** after 20 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2012 That is half the problem with the fickle fans label. We didn't play Liverpool off the park, they played us off the park( in possession/territory terms) we just caught them on the break ( and a greta result too)... our smash and grab strikes again. until we sign some top quality midfielders it will never change. We played to our game plan and it worked. What's the problem with that? I don't believe that we have to have more possession to be the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The worrying thing is that we didn't even look like scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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