sidcow Posted August 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2020 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Couple of interesting primary results last night, but the most important was probably that Medicaid expansion passed in Missouri under a ballot initiative. Overnight, 200,000+ more people have access to healthcare than did so before in this fairly Republican state, and this follows not long from the same happening in Oklahoma as well. Excuse my ignorance, but why is this important, other than people get medical help (a good thing). Is this something good Trump has done? I thought he was reigning in free medical cover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Excuse my ignorance, but why is this important, other than people get medical help (a good thing). Is this something good Trump has done? I thought he was reigning in free medical cover. Never apologise for being interested in something! It's important just for that reason, really, though perhaps it also tells us a little something about how progressive measures can sometimes find success as ballot initiatives that they wouldn't find as part of a party's legislative agenda (Democrats might or might not have fought for medicaid expansion in Missouri, but it doesn't matter, as they don't hold either part of the legislature or the governor's mansion). It's not something good Trump has done; this ballot initiative (basically, a referendum on a single policy) succeeded against the wishes and arguments of the state Republican party. Your thoughts on Trump's position on healthcare are basically correct - he, and the national Republican party, have pursued both legislation and legal challenges that would reduce access to healthcare, although they mostly haven't been very successful. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post il_serpente Posted August 5, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Excuse my ignorance, but why is this important, other than people get medical help (a good thing). Is this something good Trump has done? I thought he was reigning in free medical cover. Obamacare included a provision for states to expand Medicare eligibility to a huge number of additional people, funded by the federal government, but states essentially have to opt in. Because Republican politicians, even before Trump, were opposed to anything associated with Obama because...well...Obama...states with Republican governors for the most part chose not to accept this funding to help provide health care to additional economically disadvantaged citizens. National Republican politicians did such a good job of convincing their constituents that Obamacare was evil socialism with an evil individual mandate to buy health insurance available with significant subsidy because...well, Freedom-- so Republican governors have been politically afraid to opt in even though it would be good for their citizens. Trump ratcheted up the attacks on Obamacare, again, only because it's associated with Obama--he has absolutely no understanding of health care-- and it polled will with his base. That's why it's important that a couple of red state holdouts have now opted in via a vote of the people. Thick as many of them may be, they're realizing that maybe it's a good thing to increase access to health care during a pandemic and have people seek care when they're feeling ill. It's a pretty big blow to Trump. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted August 5, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2020 So what I have mainly learned today is that Americans don't do paragraphs 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2020 I'm watching the full interview now and all I can currently think about is his fake tan is honestly out of control. It is RIDICULOUS in this interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 The 2020 'policy" debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, villakram said: The 2020 'policy" debate. Vice President? Is that from the show 20/20?. Edited August 6, 2020 by Seat68 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Sneaky. Quite impressive that we have someone posting pro-Trump propaganda and literal fake news. Edited August 6, 2020 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Seems they just mislabelled him. Here is a little more from the interview. Comes off well till he stumbles a bit. Between crazy Donald and infirm Joe I don’t think either would fair well in any debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, Seat68 said: Seems they just mislabelled him. Here is a little more from the interview. Comes off well till he stumbles a bit. Between crazy Donald and infirm Joe I don’t think either would fair well in any debate. It is not a mis-labelling. If you have been a Senator or Governor or in this case VP, then that is the honorific title that person carries henceforth, or until they obtain a superior position, e.g., Senator Obama to President Obama. @StefanAVFC that is the exact type of biased/emotional reaction that this type of content is produced to produce. Just the 90 or so days to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, villakram said: The 2020 'policy" debate. Is this as opposed to the way Trump is dealing with China which makes absolute sense? I mean unless he is suggesting nuking Beijing pretty much anything else he suggests will be better than Trump. Incidentally I am 100% convinced Trump has been using the China Trade deal to make money off the stock market. He drops a hint it's near, the market rises, he the pours water on it and the market falls. He's tipping someone off in advance I am certain of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 7 hours ago, villakram said: The 2020 'policy" debate. It’s somebody stumbling over his words. But I guess this is the best attack you’ve got when the guy you support is a literal raving psychopath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 6, 2020 THIGHLAND 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted August 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: THIGHLAND You’ve got to pass through it on the way to grabbing ‘em by p***y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: THIGHLAND Just south of Lapland. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 This level of pandering is very, very amusing. He pardoned you already Dinesh, it's fine! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 The venerable Elliot Abrams is off to man the Iran desk after some stellar work w.r.t. Venezuela. Be good to see old friends I suppose. Such opportunities with an election on the horizon. Flag waving freedom & chest beating democracy on the march! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, villakram said: The venerable Elliot Abrams is off to man the Iran desk after some stellar work w.r.t. Venezuela. Be good to see old friends I suppose. Such opportunities with an election on the horizon. Flag waving freedom & chest beating democracy on the march! Searching for a positive, at least Chris Murphy has just lost his excuse about why Venezuelans won't welcome an American coup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) This is a must watch, truly spectacular insights. Very confronting. Take 2 hours out of your week to watch this. You might need a VPN as I doubt you'll be able to watch it outside of Australia, still worth your time. https://www.sbs.com.au/guide/video/1765658179875/Americas-Great-Divide-Obama-To-Trump-S1-Ep1 I think this link is worldwide: https://www.freeview.com.au/watch-tv/episodes/3a8fb4f1-9b14-414f-9d1d-f86766d81ed9 Has in depth interviews with leading Obama and Trump advisors throughout what I can only describe as an epic narrative. Edited August 7, 2020 by A'Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Trump riding to the rescue after congress makes a mess of new covid relief bill. The Dems just can't get out of their own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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