Mic09 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Awol said: Looking at the runners and riders I can’t pick out one who is likely to beat him. The Democrats failure to produce a stellar candidate after 3 years of Trumps shows they’re as intellectually bankrupt as the Republicans. I know of another messy haired blonde in charge who struggles to have anyone to compete against it. Funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Compare this to Benghazi. Here the CIA were running guns and potentially people to the Syrian conflict. All super shady, but foreign policy so ok. Now, the republicans could have pushed much much harder and perhaps they would have had a CIA officer been arrested on a DUI or some such to crack it all open. As it were, they were lucky/unlucky in that this evidence did not arrive and so instead they had a story that completely stunk and they used this again and again and again. That wiff followed Clinton around. Imho, Pelosi should have held firm and instead used this to allude to corruption and simply have investigation after investigation to hound Trump. It's not clear yet, but it appears that in pulling the impeachment trigger, they have strengthened Trump. Of course, all such analysis is somewhat moot pending the election, which will be definitive. If the economy holds firm, a 2nd term is empirically more likely, and perhaps could be described as the probable outcome. Edited December 19, 2019 by villakram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 19, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2019 My fear is that when he wins in the Senate it will strengthen his position and then the Dems lose the house in 2020. If the Republicans have the house, Senate and the White House, America will look a lot different for the next 50 years. Trump was too busy fighting other Republicans last time they had control of all 3. He won’t make the same mistake twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 hours ago, TheAuthority said: My fear is that when he wins in the Senate it will strengthen his position and then the Dems lose the house in 2020. If the Republicans have the house, Senate and the White House, America will look a lot different for the next 50 years. Trump was too busy fighting other Republicans last time they had control of all 3. He won’t make the same mistake twice. Ginsberg would have resigned already (except hubris) and would have been forced to in any sensibly run country (held on during Obama for some insane reason), and is unlikely to survive another presidency. Random chance could take out another SC justice too. Lots and lots at stake and somehow Pelosi is still in charge of the DNC... seems to be many people of all walks benefitting from Trump consuming so much oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Oops! CCTV footage of very, very high profile prisoner on suicide watch, who ""kills himself", goes missing. Just one of those things, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 This country needs a steam valve but I'm afraid of what it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Pelosi suggesting she won't send the articles of impeachment to the Senate is pretty much an admission that this was politics and they do not have faith in strength of what was presented. When will this moron retire. She's an absolute parasite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Pelosi suggesting she won't send the articles of impeachment to the Senate is pretty much an admission that this was politics and they do not have faith in strength of what was presented. When will this moron retire. She's an absolute parasite. That's an interesting take. For me, it's the Dem leadership finally growing a spine. Repubs have outmanoeuvred them time after time and they are finally fighting back. I view it as 'we know that the Senate will acquit, regardless of whatever is put in front of them, let's let Trump sweat it out.' Both McConnell and Graham have said this won't be a fair trial and that they aren't neutral. They've said they won't allow witnesses. They're said they won't honour subpoenas. Why send it there when she knows this, and they admit it? There is nothing more that Trump wants than to be acquitted. You're right, it is wholly partisan. By the Republicans. The Dems could have a recorded phone call of Trump stating he's a Russian asset and they would still acquit him. Edited December 20, 2019 by StefanAVFC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 There's a legal gent in the papers today claiming that strictly speaking the impeachment is not official until it is delivered to the senate. Not at all clear how much fact vs legal opinion this is. Be kinda funny though, if 'twas true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Jay Sekulow. Fox talking head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Czechlad Posted December 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Pelosi suggesting she won't send the articles of impeachment to the Senate is pretty much an admission that this was politics and they do not have faith in strength of what was presented. When will this moron retire. She's an absolute parasite. This is the absolute wrong take. She is not sending the articles because McConnell, Graham, and other republican senators have already said on national tv they will not take the trial seriously, so why would she send the evidence over so they can immediately say it proves nothing and acquit Trump? She is demanding they agree to a fair trial with actual key witnesses and evidence be turned over before she hands over the articles. It would be idiotic for her to willingly hand it over right now. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted December 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2019 Trump held a rally and decided to give his opinions on wind turbines, or 'windmills' as he calls them, and it needs to be heard to be believed: I know everybody already knows/suspects that he's very unwell, mentally speaking, but this is just further evidence. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Trump held a rally and decided to give his opinions on wind turbines, or 'windmills' as he calls them, and it needs to be heard to be believed: I know everybody already knows/suspects that he's very unwell, mentally speaking, but this is just further evidence. a windmill will kill many boiled eagles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I continue to love his pronunciation of China. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Trump held a rally and decided to give his opinions on wind turbines, or 'windmills' as he calls them, and it needs to be heard to be believed: I know everybody already knows/suspects that he's very unwell, mentally speaking, but this is just further evidence. They are pretty standard conservative talking points, we have conservatives saying the same in Australia i.e. the manufacture of renewables causes more pollution than they are worth, turbines kill wildlife and destroy landscapes etc. I’m surprised he didn’t bring out the one about the noise from turbines causing illness (‘Wind Turbine Syndrome’). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Trump held a rally and decided to give his opinions on wind turbines, or 'windmills' as he calls them, and it needs to be heard to be believed: I know everybody already knows/suspects that he's very unwell, mentally speaking, but this is just further evidence. “I’ve studied them more than anyone” what an absolute retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davkaus Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 He doesn't understand some, but he's studied windmills more than anybody. Clearly wind is a phenomena beyond the comprehension of mere mortals. Seriously, the guy might be one of the stupidest people in the world. He has the best stupid, many people are saying it. It's true! Nobody is stupid like Donald Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Seat68 said: I continue to love his pronunciation of China. he’s doing it on purpose now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Quote I know windmills very much I don't know what to say. Just. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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