Popular Post peterms Posted December 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2019 Interesting new policy initiative being planned by Trump. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villakram Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The Idiot Bush and the Failure Obama both shown to be utter liars. The Orange one also, naturally. As has maybe been clearer to those of us with any sort of sense of history and reading of reporting outside the US bubble. "A confidential trove of government documents obtained by The Washington Post reveals that senior U.S. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan throughout the 18-year campaign, making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable." https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/ Of course this will be ignored because of the Trump impeachment circus. No quite the Pentagon papers, but history sure does rhyme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, villakram said: The Idiot Bush and the Failure Obama both shown to be utter liars. The Orange one also, naturally. As has maybe been clearer to those of us with any sort of sense of history and reading of reporting outside the US bubble. "A confidential trove of government documents obtained by The Washington Post reveals that senior U.S. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan throughout the 18-year campaign, making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable." https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/ Of course this will be ignored because of the Trump impeachment circus. No quite the Pentagon papers, but history sure does rhyme. Who was it that said that all governments lie, to get citizens to fight wars? In this case, the lies have been used as cover for decisions which have led to the deaths and disablement of many US and foreign citizens. I'd be interested to hear a legal view on whether any law has been broken by doing this. What a total disaster US foreign policy is. If only their policymakers were as ignorant of and uninterested in the existence of the rest of the world as many of their citizens appear to be. We'd all be in a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, villakram said: The Idiot Bush and the Failure Obama both shown to be utter liars. The Orange one also, naturally. As has maybe been clearer to those of us with any sort of sense of history and reading of reporting outside the US bubble. "A confidential trove of government documents obtained by The Washington Post reveals that senior U.S. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan throughout the 18-year campaign, making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable." https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/ Of course this will be ignored because of the Trump impeachment circus. No quite the Pentagon papers, but history sure does rhyme. Hey. My Lockhead Martin & Haliburton stock are doing great in my 401K so screw you. Now where's my gun you goddam hippy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 hours ago, peterms said: What a total disaster US foreign policy is. If only their policymakers were as ignorant of and uninterested in the existence of the rest of the world as many of their citizens appear to be. We'd all be in a better place. Erm, Wall Street disagrees with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 NDAA 2019 passed by the Dem controlled house: 377-48. Notable neays - Gabbard, Ocasia-Cortez, Tlaib. Know thy enemy. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll672.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Nice write-up on another $$$ politico, in the Graun. "Richmond, the 46-year-old congressman, has represented the residents of Reserve, and most of the people living in a densely polluted area between New Orleans and Baton Rouge referred to as Cancer Alley, for almost a decade. A rising star in the Democratic party, who now co-chairs former vice-president Joe Biden’s 2020 presidential campaign, Richmond is the lone Democrat in Louisiana’s delegation to Washington. He has won successive elections here campaigning on healthcare expansion, voting rights and criminal justice reform. A charismatic and chisel-jawed politician, he has seen his congressional seat in Washington turn into a Democratic stronghold in the deeply Republican south." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/12/louisiana-democrat-cedric-richmond-cancer-town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Must read material from Greenwald regarding the IG report and the use of the apparatus of the security state to influence/subvert the democratic process. There's also significant related input cited from Taibbi at Rolling Stone and Charlie Savage from the NYT. "Just as was true when the Mueller investigation closed without a single American being charged with criminally conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, Wednesday’s issuance of the long-waited report from the Department of Justice’s Inspector General reveals that years of major claims and narratives from the U.S. media were utter frauds." https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted December 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, villakram said: There's also significant related input cited from Taibbi at Rolling Stone Good to know his career recovered after letting that Matt Le Tissier shot through his legs at Old Trafford in '99. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 15 hours ago, villakram said: Must read material from Greenwald regarding the IG report and the use of the apparatus of the security state to influence/subvert the democratic process. There's also significant related input cited from Taibbi at Rolling Stone and Charlie Savage from the NYT. "Just as was true when the Mueller investigation closed without a single American being charged with criminally conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, Wednesday’s issuance of the long-waited report from the Department of Justice’s Inspector General reveals that years of major claims and narratives from the U.S. media were utter frauds." https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/ Must read only if you want to take in a bunch of spin and BS. Here is the report The actual report says exactly the opposite of your or Greenwalds assertion. Quote We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced Priestap's decision to open Crossfire Hurricane. The evidence also showed that FBI officials responsible for and involved in the case opening decisions were unanimous in their belief that, together with the July 2016 release by WikiLeaks of hacked DNC emails, the Papadopoulos statement described in the FFG information reflected the Russian government's potential next step to interfere with the 2016 U.S. elections. These FBI officials were similarly unanimous in their belief that the FFG information represented a threat to national security that warranted further investigation by the FBI. The utter frauds are the people claiming that the IG report in some way has uncovered a conspiracy in the FBI to subvert the democratic process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Straggler said: Must read only if you want to take in a bunch of spin and BS. Here is the report The actual report says exactly the opposite of your or Greenwalds assertion. The utter frauds are the people claiming that the IG report in some way has uncovered a conspiracy in the FBI to subvert the democratic process. Good to know you have great faith and trust in the FBI. When was the last FISA warrant submitted? Oh, and then there's that Nunes memo. Nice of you to bring up the old conspiracy cannard too, charming even. All rubbish, so sorry for wasting your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 hours ago, villakram said: Good to know you have great faith and trust in the FBI. When was the last FISA warrant submitted? Oh, and then there's that Nunes memo. Nice of you to bring up the old conspiracy cannard too, charming even. All rubbish, so sorry for wasting your time. My faith or trust in the FBI is not relevant. The article you linked to said that the IG report uncovered an attempt to subvert democracy. All I did is point out that the conclusions of the report were exactly the opposite of that assertion. I do appreciate the apology though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Freedom & Democracy Update: The Bernie Blackout. Please don't watch this. The corporate media are the good guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 16 hours ago, villakram said: Nice of you to bring up the old conspiracy cannard too, charming even. All rubbish, so sorry for wasting your time. says the man calling everybody 'pots' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: says the man calling everybody 'pots' I could have said 'potty', but that would have been rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Trump letter to Pelosi Quote More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials. Bat shit crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 16/12/2019 at 05:48, villakram said: Must read material from Greenwald regarding the IG report and the use of the apparatus of the security state to influence/subvert the democratic process. There's also significant related input cited from Taibbi at Rolling Stone and Charlie Savage from the NYT. "Just as was true when the Mueller investigation closed without a single American being charged with criminally conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, Wednesday’s issuance of the long-waited report from the Department of Justice’s Inspector General reveals that years of major claims and narratives from the U.S. media were utter frauds." https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/ COINTELPRO has had a facelift and is rearing it's ugly head again perhaps? It's pretty scary when you read the history of the U.S.A, not that I'm a scholar. But it's no wonder that she has spent 222 of 239 years at war. What was the art of war again? Deception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Straggler said: Trump letter to Pelosi Bat shit crazy. Stephen Miller classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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