foreveryoung Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Trump will not last his term. Thrown out or assasinated?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: For the first time, I'm just beginning to wonder if this might be true. I still think it's unlikely, but the likelihood is ticking up slowly. The revelation the other day that members of Trump's wider team met Russian officials and confidantes of Putin in England, Holland and elsewhere in Europe during the final stages of the campaign seems particularly likely to blow up at some point. Amazingly he is somehow becoming even more aloof and is increasingly alienating himself. I might check the odds on him getting impeached during his term, well worth a bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Trump with a great bit of fake news. If, as suspected, Trump is lying about the Obama wiretapping, could Obama sue for libel, defamation or some such? It's one thing blaming a previous incumbent for the state of this or that but to completely make something up as scandalous as an illegal wiretap is another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 People are speculating on twitter that Stone was drunk or off his face on something, but it seems that the tone of these tweets is entirely consistent with his behaviour over decades. Some examples here, of which this is one small snippet. Quote Stone’s Violent Rhetoric: Calls For Killing Of Public Figures, Fantasizes About Media Figures Dying Stone: Hillary Clinton Should Be “Executed For Murder.” [Twitter.com, 7/10/14] Stone: Sen. Bernie Sanders Is A “Soviet Agent” Who “Should Be Arrested For Treason And Shot.” [Twitter.com, 4/18/14] Stone: George Soros Should Be “Executed.” Soros is a businessman and progressive philanthropist (he has donated to Media Matters and other organizations). [Twitter.com, 3/15/14] Stone: “Angry Citizens Should Find And Hang” Gov. Dannel Malloy (D-CT). [Twitter.com, 1/22/16] Stone: Santorum Won’t Ever Be President -- “I Will Order A Mail-Order Rifle First.” Stone tweeted: “Religious fanatic Rick Santorum will never be President- I will order a mail-order rifle first.” Stone frequently writes about the John F. Kennedy assassination; the Warren Commission ruled that Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy with a mail-order rifle. [Twitter.com, 2/3/13] Stone Has Fantasized About The Deaths Of Media Figures. Stone tweeted to journalist Jill Abramson, “DIE BITCH!”; tweeted about CNN commentator Ana Navarro “killing herself”; and wrote of Fox News commentator Ed Rollins: “Ed Rollins is on FOX ? If he isn't dead he should be #hack #loser #fraud.” [Media Matters, 5/2/16] Stone’s Racist Commentary: “Nigga,” "Stupid Negro," “Token,” “Uncle Tom,” “Mandingo,” “House Negro” Stone’s Tweets Include Attacks Like "Stupid Negro," "Fat Negro," "Arrogant Know-It-All Negro," “Uncle Tom,” “Mandingo,” And “House Negro.” Stone tweeted that commentator Roland Martin is a "stupid negro" and a "fat negro," commentator Herman Cain is “mandingo,” and former Rep. Allen West (R-FL) is an "arrogant know-it-all negro." He also tweeted that commentator Al Sharpton is a "professional negro" who likes fried chicken, asked if former Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson was an “Uncle Tom,” and referred to himself as a “nigga” with a Nixon tattoo. [Media Matters, 2/24/16, 4/22/16] Stone Called Hispanic And Black Commentators "Quota Hires." Stone called African-American commentator Roland Martin and Latina CNN political commentator Ana Navarro "quota hires” because they are "so dumb and unqualified that one can reach no other conclusion." He also tweeted of Navarro: “Black beans and rice didn't miss her.” He also called Martin a “token.” Stone’s comments led to him being banned from CNN. [Media Matters, 8/4/15, 2/22/16, 6/7/16] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 39 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: Trump with a great bit of fake news. If, as suspected, Trump is lying about the Obama wiretapping, could Obama sue for libel, defamation or some such? It's one thing blaming a previous incumbent for the state of this or that but to completely make something up as scandalous as an illegal wiretap is another level. If warrants from the FISA Court exist then they will come out and Obama will end up making Nixon look a choir boy. If they don't exist then Trump may have been suckered into hanging himself by making these accusations - entirely plausible. We'll see, but in the meantime it's definitely entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peterms Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 One family's experience of the US healthcare system, not the worst story by any means, just an everyday tale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 3 hours ago, PompeyVillan said: Trump with a great bit of fake news. If, as suspected, Trump is lying about the Obama wiretapping, could Obama sue for libel, defamation or some such? It's one thing blaming a previous incumbent for the state of this or that but to completely make something up as scandalous as an illegal wiretap is another level. It's a scandal if it's true, and a scandal if it's false. Well done, Donny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 20 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I'd say it's never a good look for someone in the president's circle to call a member of the public a 'stupid ugly ignorant bitch', but it definitely doesn't work when she's a] a maths professor, and b] a solid 9.5/10 hottie! What is making me think a bit is that the screen grab I saw of that 'stupid' etc tweet was that it had 110 likes. 110 people saw that vile tweet and thought yep, works for me. They are not alone either. I had a scout around outside my echo chamber (the guardian website) and had a look on the Daily fail. The comments section there is littered with people who are seemingly overjoyed that he is sticking it to the liberals. It's in no way an overwhelming support, but it is noticeable. How do you even begin to engage with someone who thinks like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Straggler said: What is making me think a bit is that the screen grab I saw of that 'stupid' etc tweet was that it had 110 likes. 110 people saw that vile tweet and thought yep, works for me. They are not alone either. I had a scout around outside my echo chamber (the guardian website) and had a look on the Daily fail. The comments section there is littered with people who are seemingly overjoyed that he is sticking it to the liberals. It's in no way an overwhelming support, but it is noticeable. How do you even begin to engage with someone who thinks like this? You can't. It's the cult of Trump. How do you engage or persuade cultists? See also, Brexit (to a lesser extent) The world is bitterly and venomously divided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: The world is bitterly and venomously divided. It's hard to get an accurate impression from afar, but it does seem that in the US in particular there are fairly large groupings who don't attempt to engage with each other. The line about "alternative facts" reflects that - it sounds like quite a lot of people are receiving most of their information from very skewed sources, to a much greater degree than for example favouring a particular newspaper. As a consequence, it seems to be fairly easy to get significant numbers believing things which are demonstrably untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 21 hours ago, foreveryoung said: Thrown out or assasinated?? Why not both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Straggler said: What is making me think a bit is that the screen grab I saw of that 'stupid' etc tweet was that it had 110 likes. 110 people saw that vile tweet and thought yep, works for me. They are not alone either. I had a scout around outside my echo chamber (the guardian website) and had a look on the Daily fail. The comments section there is littered with people who are seemingly overjoyed that he is sticking it to the liberals. It's in no way an overwhelming support, but it is noticeable. How do you even begin to engage with someone who thinks like this? They care more about screwing over liberals than looking out for their own interests and ideals. Politics is like football out there. It's Blues vs Villa every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I see he sticks to his policy of 'Don't take no for an answer' whether he's proposing laws or chatting up women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted March 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2017 Please, please, please, please don't let me be the only one watching Evan Davis interviewing the two Trump supporters. Please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted March 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2017 Enjoy, in between shaking your head and fearing of the world, obviously. "Thats right" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) Jesus **** Christ. "He doesn't say anything stupid. You're too politically correct" My head hurts. It's a cult. The cult of Trump. Dear leader. How dare you say anything about dear leader. Edited March 6, 2017 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 5 hours ago, a m ole said: I see he sticks to his policy of 'Don't take no for an answer' whether he's proposing laws or chatting up women. Yup. It's like him being told no to fisting and then proposing only using four fingers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 He's getting quite riled now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Gas them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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