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Rand Paul is more idiotic than his father and that takes some doing.

 

Careful who you say that to...

 

Why should I be 'careful'? Liber-tardians do not scare me.

 

 

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Didn't take long:

Republicans call for Boston bombings suspect to be 'enemy combatant'



Barack Obama used his weekly address to the nation on Saturday to hail the successful completion of the Boston manhunt, but it proved to be a short-lived respite from his political troubles.

The glow from the Boston arrest lasted only a few hours before Republican opponents were queuing up to ask questions about the Obama administration's approach to terrorism. One of the more serious challenges came from Republican senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, two of the party's leading foreign policy and security specialists, who called for the arrested 19-year-old suspect, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, to be treated not as a criminal but an "enemy combatant".

It is not a legal nicety, but an issue that goes to the heart of differences between Republicans and Obama on how to deal with terrorism, not least the failed attempt by Obama to close the Guantánamo detention centre.

Obama, in his weekly address, avoided political points, instead praising police and federal agents in Boston involved in the manhunt and the doctors, nurses and volunteers those who treated the victims of last Monday's bombings. "The world has witnessed one sure and steadfast truth: Americans refuse to be terrorised," Obama said, adding: "If anyone wants to know who we are; what America is; how we respond to evil and terror – that's it. Selflessly. Compassionately. And unafraid … America's spirit remains undimmed."

Republicans have found it hard to challenge Obama on foreign policy and security, in part because on issues such as the use of drones he has been more aggressive than George W Bush and because he was in the White House when Osama bin Laden was killed. But Republicans have been tenacious, particularly McCain and Graham, over the killing of four Americans, including the US ambassador, in Benghazi, Libya, last year and look set to be so again over the Boston attacks. During last week'smanhunt, Graham tweeted asking if Tsarnaev, if caught alive, would be read his Miranda rights – the right to have a lawyer present when interviewed, and remain silent.

In a joint statement on Saturday by Graham and McCain and fellow Republicans Senator Kelly Ayotte and Congressman Peter King, they said: "The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent … We should be focused on gathering intelligence from this suspect right now that can help our nation understand how this attack occurred and what may follow. That should be our focus, not a future domestic criminal trial that may take years to complete."

Obama, speaking to reporters at the White House on Friday night after Tsarnaev's arrest, anticipated the challenge, saying the stakes were high and "it's important that we do this right". He added: "That's why we have investigations. That's why we relentlessly gather the facts. That's why we have courts." Republicans are also asking whether the response to just two suspects was an over-reaction, shutting down an entire city. Immigration will also be an issue in the spotlight. Senator Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the judiciary committee, at a hearing on immigration reform, said on Friday: "Given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system."

 

Lindsey Graham also said (to someone at the Washington Post, "It sure would be nice to have a drone up there."

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And down the slippery slope we go. Two American citizens who planted bombs and killed 4 people are now being labelled "Enemy Combatants". No rights for the defendant at all. Straight to Death Row. The more the feds can stretch the definition of "Enemy Combatant", the less rights the people have.

 

This kid should have the book thrown at him old school style, in a court of **** law.

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And down the slippery slope we go. Two American citizens who planted bombs and killed 4 people are now being labelled "Enemy Combatants". No rights for the defendant at all. Straight to Death Row. The more the feds can stretch the definition of "Enemy Combatant", the less rights the people have.

 

This kid should have the book thrown at him old school style, in a court of **** law.

 

What really makes me laugh is the lack of outrage about Obama's blatant continuation of all Bush era policies.  Yep.  There is no liberal media bias.

 

Do not get me wrong, I am glad they were calling Bush on his shit, but they need to do the same thing for Barry.  We will never see it happen though.

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Greenwald is the only one, but since he's a libertarian and writes for teh Grauniad, he can be safely ignored.

It is always amusing reading the comment threads to Greenwald...

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Greenwald is the only one, but since he's a libertarian and writes for teh Grauniad, he can be safely ignored.

It is always amusing reading the comment threads to Greenwald...

 

Greenwald is very very impressive, although I'd describe the comment threads as depressing rather than amusing most of the time.

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Yep, we've really sunk to the depths with this one. I read the article earlier and just shook my head with resigned incredulity. Sad and pathetic state of affairs.

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And now they want to make available the technology for anyone to make their own gun. Because that's what freedom's all about, right?

 

Asked if he felt any sense of responsibility about whose hands the gun might fall into, he told the BBC: "I recognise the tool might be used to harm other people - that's what the tool is - it's a gun.

"But I don't think that's a reason to not do it - or a reason not to put it out there."

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