peterms Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Land of the free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The mother of all entrapment stories from the first days of Bush the Elder's presidency - read the whole thread, it's just incredibly depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The two previous posts prompt a comparison between Trump and Bush. One is a corrupt, venal, narcissistic, disturbed, insecure, vengeful and thoroughly odious little man. The other was a mass murderer on a vast scale, impervious to doubt or self-questioning, enthusiastically pursuing the narrow imperial interests of the US no matter what the cost in blood and lives, spawning a mini-dynasty with his intellectually challenged mini-me following in his evil tracks. I'd rather have the demented idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, peterms said: The two previous posts prompt a comparison between Trump and Bush. One is a corrupt, venal, narcissistic, disturbed, insecure, vengeful and thoroughly odious little man. The other was a mass murderer on a vast scale, impervious to doubt or self-questioning, enthusiastically pursuing the narrow imperial interests of the US no matter what the cost in blood and lives, spawning a mini-dynasty with his intellectually challenged mini-me following in his evil tracks. I'd rather have the demented idiot. The only thing between them seems to be the mass murderer bit. We're only just nearing the end of the first quarter. Edited December 2, 2018 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 2, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, peterms said: The two previous posts prompt a comparison between Trump and Bush. One is a corrupt, venal, narcissistic, disturbed, insecure, vengeful and thoroughly odious little man. The other was a mass murderer on a vast scale, impervious to doubt or self-questioning, enthusiastically pursuing the narrow imperial interests of the US no matter what the cost in blood and lives, spawning a mini-dynasty with his intellectually challenged mini-me following in his evil tracks. I'd rather have the demented idiot. Give the idiot time. I am in no doubt that he could outdo even the Bush boys in the mass murdering stakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brumerican Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The link contained in the G 20 bit. Superb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 30/11/2018 at 12:24, mjmooney said: We've been hearing this for nearly two years. I'm starting to think he's teflon. Quote Mueller preparing endgame for Russia investigation Quote WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Mueller’s prosecutors have told defense lawyers in recent weeks that they are “tying up loose ends” in their investigation, providing the clearest clues yet that the long-running probe into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election may be coming to its climax, potentially in the next few weeks, according to multiple sources close to the matter. https://news.yahoo.com/mueller-preparing-end-game-russia-investigation-225720798.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, maqroll said: https://news.yahoo.com/mueller-preparing-end-game-russia-investigation-225720798.html That’s no good, my favourite soap will turn into a courtroom drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The press have reported that the investigation is reaching it's end game monthly for the last year. They have been wrong every time and imo they are wrong again now, it is just a mechanism to get you to read the article. There will be many more months of the soap before it gets all Perry Mason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Well, however true it was, the 'Trump as customer of notorious paedophile' story just bit the dust: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 4, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2018 Why am I not surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 This scandal is a long way from being just Trump... given those names known, how can any of this be surprising. Same as it ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, villakram said: This scandal is a long way from being just Trump... given those names known, how can any of this be surprising. Same as it ever was. I'm just waiting for the day the extradition request arrives for Farage and Banks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, bickster said: I'm just waiting for the day the extradition request arrives for Farage and Banks ...processed by Gove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, villakram said: This scandal is a long way from being just Trump... given those names known, how can any of this be surprising. Same as it ever was. The story says the plea deal was agreed years ago, ie when Trumpy Pumpy was no more than another corrupt grifter. It's astonishing how the US penal system allows rich people (and banks) to pay money they stole from someone else, to escape the consequences of their criminal behaviour, when the system also locks up people for decades for trivial crimes, or else just shoots them on suspicion of being black: and yet there is no popular uprising against this. I gather today is the anniversay of the murder of Fred Hampton, shot in his bed for the crime of providing pre-school breakfasts to black kids. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 It's been 4 days now and Rudy still hasn't deleted that tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 In surprising-not-surprising news, Trump seems to be managing to stay quiet about voter fraud in North Carolina's 9th district, despite his very serious and profound concerns about the sanctity of American democracy. Basically, the Republican winner's campaign appear to have up to some outright voter fraud (of the 'possibly taking piles of absentee ballots that may have been fraudulently acquired while pretending to be electoral officials and just maybe tossing them in the garbage somewhere' variety in some cases) and the evidence is strong enough that the North Carolina Board of Elections hasn't certified the result. Given how much he bangs about voter fraud that actual political scientists repeatedly state barely exists you'd hope the media might press him for some form of comment at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 Mueller sentencing memo takes it easy on Flynn for his extensive cooperation in (several lines of total redactions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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