NurembergVillan Posted June 1, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2018 "ARE YOU MY WIFE?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 On 01/06/2018 at 18:56, HanoiVillan said: Here's a useful reminder that there are despicable people in American politics who aren't named Donald Trump, and aren't even Republican: Dammit not Jill too. Can't trust a single politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 For a nation that had a revolution and created a constitution specifically to defend against the tyranny of a King, there has been little more than a whimper as Trump effectively declares himself above the consequences of the law. I'd be surprised if he hasn't started measuring himself up for a crown, and I would not put it past the GOP to be happy enough to anoint him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Straggler said: For a nation that had a revolution and created a constitution specifically to defend against the tyranny of a King, there has been little more than a whimper as Trump effectively declares himself above the consequences of the law. I'd be surprised if he hasn't started measuring himself up for a crown, and I would not put it past the GOP to be happy enough to anoint him. There are plenty of other legal minds that disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, bickster said: There are plenty of other legal minds that disagree Yep, the constitution specifically mentions that no man is above the law. But in practice, if he does it and Congress under Republican control lets him, then what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) I really do believe Trump is going to try some dictator type method to ensure all his corrupt republicans stay in office. Edited June 4, 2018 by Czechlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Straggler said: Yep, the constitution specifically mentions that no man is above the law. But in practice, if he does it and Congress under Republican control lets him, then what happens? Constitutional crisis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 The thing is that Republicans should be up in arms about that Trump tweet. They frame themselves as the ultimate defenders of the constitution, but here is Trump very publicly undercutting one of, not just the defining features of the constitution, that no man is above the law, but he is undercutting one of the main reasons that they had the war of independence and wrote a constitution in the first place. If the people that run government and run law enforcement stay silent, or support him the law in effect changes. It should be a no brainer, every member of congress, every member of the senate should be seen to stand up and say that this statement cannot stand and will result in him being not just impeached, but that the pardon would be ruled unconstitutional and rescinded. However the current lot are doing the old "oh I don't think he is seriously considering it" shtick, which they have been saying since the day they heard he was going to run. 6 minutes ago, bickster said: Constitutional crisis! Agreed, constitutional crisis ahoy and would you trust the GOP not to side with Trump on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 The imperial nature of the US presidency predates Donald Trump by a significant distance. It was a long time ago that the balance of power swung from the congress to the presidential branch of US government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 4, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, villakram said: The imperial nature of the US presidency predates Donald Trump by a significant distance. It was a long time ago that the balance of power swung from the congress to the presidential branch of US government. Try telling that to Obama who was stonewalled by the GOP repeatedly throughout his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I must have forgotten when Obama pulled shit like the below. Quote “The Philadelphia Eagles are unable to come to the White House with their full team to be celebrated tomorrow,” President Trump said in a statement. “They disagree with their President because he insists that they proudly stand for the National Anthem, hand on heart, in honor of the great men and women of our military and the people of our country. The Eagles wanted to send a smaller delegation, but the 1,000 fans planning to attend the event deserve better. These fans are still invited to the White House to be part of a different type of ceremony — one that will honor our great country, pay tribute to the heroes who fight to protect it, and loudly and proudly play the National Anthem.” **** scary. Proper banana republic behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: I must have forgotten when Obama pulled shit like the below. **** scary. Proper banana republic behaviour. This, yep, pretty much just this: Nailed it Quote In a statement late Monday, Mayor Jim Kenney of Philadelphia said that disinviting the Eagles “from the White House only proves that our president is not a true patriot, but a fragile egomaniac obsessed with crowd size and afraid of the embarrassment of throwing a party to which no one wants to attend.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: <br> I'd guess that's just ensured that the anthem issue will continue well in to next season. What Trump wants, unfortunately. Edit: I imagine he'd probably really prefer an outright win, i.e. everyone just going along with his demand. A decent second best for him, though, is that it continues to be an ongoing problem that he can keep tweeting about to appeal to certain sections of his support rather than just falling away and ceasing to be an issue. Edited June 5, 2018 by snowychap imagine for the second guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 That level of blind nationalism is scary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: That level of blind nationalism is scary. It is. It's the followers who are the blind nationalists, though, I'd say. Trump's just a user. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 And here is Fox news showing photos of the players kneeling in prayer and making out like it was part of a national anthem protest. Just to be clear, no Eagles player knelt during the national anthem at any stage of last season. That Fox is a scummy station is hardly news, but here they go again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2018 They should have gone and then when the band played "hail to the chief" (when the President enters) they all should have knelt. See how he handled that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2018 "Hail to the Chief". What an utter embarrassment that song is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: "Hail to the Chief". What an utter embarrassment that song is. Hmmm, that's just given me an idea for work. The Chief is the nickname of the man that started the company I work for. He still potters about the office on a daily basis and quite often pays us a visit. I'm just going to have that preloaded in youtube for his next visit. (He will appreciate the humour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, choffer said: Try telling that to Obama who was stonewalled by the GOP repeatedly throughout his tenure. Edited June 5, 2018 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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