Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted May 19, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2017 35 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Let's all just ignore things when they are done by people we like I can't find anyone advocating that. Any politician, let alone a president, who has broken the law or has compromised the ethics of office should be punished accordingly. Too many Trump advocates offset his misdemeanours by pointing out what his predecessors may have done. One does not excuse or justify the other. All of them should be held accountable. As for not caring about democratic processes - I think that part of your post is nonsense. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2017 Trump doesn't have an Obama shaped bullet proof vest. Obama did shitty things. Trump isn't a saint either. They have nothing to do with each other. Trump can and should be criticised. His stupidity this week may have risked lives, divulging information to a party not intended to be privy to it. And that's only 1 thing he's done. Every story coming out is grim, either embarrassing or terrifying - the most powerful man in the world has to have reports shortened and riddled with references to himself to keep his attention, throws out patently, clearly untrue nonsense at every minor criticism, is alleged to have demanded loyalty from someone investigating his regime (before sacking him), has question marks all over his campaign and team that vary between dodgy (asking, allegedly, to have journalists arrested) to treasonous. I'd be ashamed if questions weren't being asked. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, NurembergVillan said: I can't find anyone advocating that. Any politician, let alone a president, who has broken the law or has compromised the ethics of office should be punished accordingly. Too many Trump advocates offset his misdemeanours by pointing out what his predecessors may have done. One does not excuse or justify the other. All of them should be held accountable. As for not caring about democratic processes - I think that part of your post is nonsense. I'm not a Trump supporter, I just don't like people going off on one before things are proven. None of these people batted an eyelid when Obama was tapping European leaders' phones. It's just a bit comical really that people can't be more objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: I can't find anyone advocating that. Any politician, let alone a president, who has broken the law or has compromised the ethics of office should be punished accordingly. Too many Trump advocates offset his misdemeanours by pointing out what his predecessors may have done. One does not excuse or justify the other. All of them should be held accountable. As for not caring about democratic processes - I think that part of your post is nonsense. I think you've been too kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 19, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, magnkarl said: None of these people batted an eyelid when Obama was tapping European leaders' phones. Which people? Who are this imaginary, subjective group of Obama devotees you insist on referencing en masse? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 19, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chindie said: I think you've been too kind. I'm a Mod 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Probably been posted before, but I liked this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2017 The moment Air Force One went wheels up for Trump's first international trip, the New York Times released this new report of the leader of the free world's very Presidential words during the meeting with the Russians. Quote Trump Told Russians That Firing ‘Nut Job’ Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting. “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2017 There's another story that just came out as well - the FBI investigation has identified a person of interest described as a senior White House advisor close to the President. Just good timing on those stories since they came out as Air Force 1 took off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 19, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 19, 2017 He's definitely not done anything wrong though... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: He's definitely not done anything wrong though... But Obama. Check. Mate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: He's definitely not done anything wrong though... Great GIF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The death penalty is still the punishment for treason in America, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The death penalty is still the punishment for treason in America, right? Don't they go to Texas? An ill fitting Stetson can see you in the chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chindie said: There's another story that just came out as well - the FBI investigation has identified a person of interest described as a senior White House advisor close to the President. Just good timing on those stories since they came out as Air Force 1 took off? There's a political war underway in Washington, as pretty much always has been, e.g., Fox would do this all the time with Obama, they were/are just easy to ignore. One must note that both of those newspapers have a clearly defined agenda, so their stories backed up not just by an anonymous source, but a senior anonymous source must be interpreted with this in mind. Were this a tinpot dictatorship, the chance of a coup would be very high right now Edited May 19, 2017 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Chatted with some journalists this week. They'd heard that Obama and Dubya had been briefed to be ready for a joint address to the nation. If it were true? It's not really that much of a revelation. It's common sense at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I'm concerned that the 'rednecks' will rise up and start shooting from more than just their mouths, if/when, Trump is impeached. I'll be honest, I am a bit behind on it all. Those up to date, you think it likely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) We need some kind of proof to believe all this, that is all most people without a pitchfork in their hand are trying to say. "Anonymous senior adviser" could be the journalist's cat, Fox News have done this sort of thing for years. It is starting to mass up for Donald tho, that's for sure. I'm not sure I would bother with all the pressure when he's had a cushy life since he was a kid. Maybe the "senior white house adviser" is Pence trying to become president? Game of Thrones, White House style. Edited May 19, 2017 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, Xann said: Chatted with some journalists this week. They'd heard that Obama and Dubya had been briefed to be ready for a joint address to the nation. If it were true? It's not really that much of a revelation. It's common sense at this stage. Order of succession: The Vice President - Well Pence is implicated Speaker of the House - Ryan has made some dubious comments relating to what he knew and when, so no. President pro tempore of the Senate1 - Turtle Head McConnell - no thanks Secretary of State - Rex Tillerson - Worked his whole life for the oil industry until about 100 days ago. Secretary of the Treasury - Mnuchin - possibly linked to Russia and a stupid name Secretary of Defense - Mad Dog Mattis - says it all really Attorney General - Jeff Sessions - Good Lord NO! Secretary of the Interior - Basically the person who looks after all the national parks is the only viable option to be President, if Trump is impeached. With all that being said, it means there's only one man for the job... Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you President Swanson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 19, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 19, 2017 Could've been the cat, yeah. Or the Russian journalist who was allowed to attend the meeting. I guess we'll never know... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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