NurembergVillan Posted December 11, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 11, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_YdJPfMt_c&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Given not coming for crosses and causing our defence problems apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Think we are seeing even more now why Guzan is first choice. Yes Given hasn't played for awhile but it just isn't commanding enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I actually think we need to put Guzan on, can see Given costing us a goal from a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 it was a great goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_chemist Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 thanks for that NV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 commentators full of praise for Holman probably had never heard of him before the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 that will do for now we are in the game just as much as them hopefully PL puts a rocket up Givens and the defence ass and Gabby comes on to take advantage of tired legs later on cmon boys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Swap Guzan for Given, we need someone who talks to help our young guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 My god, charlotte jackson on skysports. Id knock her fillings out Back on topic, given has and always will be a great reaction, shot stopping keeper, but never a good all rounder. Thats why city got shot of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 swapping guzan for given would be a massive waste of a sub. Given is still a great goalkeeper and Guzan needs a rest in the odd game. He has never been massively commanding, older more experienced keepers arent. They take the catch's they can take cleanly, no risks. Were one all, one sub down in a game that could last for 120 minutes, changing a keeper at half time is champ man stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Given has always been a liability at set pieces/crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 At the game... Holman been good but tiring towards end of first half, KEA doing ok with Delph, just need a bit more width on the left... Given very worrying, would like to see Guzan on. Overall we should be winning, hope we can nick it in second half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 11, 2012 Moderator Share Posted December 11, 2012 According to the beeb we had 17 shots in that half - if we play like this goals will come. (Possibly at both ends.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 11, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2012 Given is another in the list of 'Just isn't that good' players. He's a decent keeper, little more. Silent and useless at anything coming into the box from a cross. He's gotten lobbed an obscene amount in his career as well. The talk of him as a great was always nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadude Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Cracking goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 According to the beeb we had 17 shots in that half - if we play like this goals will come. (Possibly at both ends.) Formation could work better if we had Vlaar back though (in regards to defence) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 According to the beeb we had 17 shots in that half - if we play like this goals will come. (Possibly at both ends.) Thats a seasons worth under Mcleish ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Two more for us...Weimann and Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Weird to think how low our shot rates are in the league. Hope this spurs a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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