David-Copenhagen Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 As most here I am enjoining the evolution of a new and very young team. But it is all well and good to bring through new players, the real test is to keep hold of them as we progress. We need to get to a point were we can hold on to our players and one way to do that is long contracts. I know that wont stop the players from leaving, but it ensures us a better bargaining position. If we progress during the next few weeks as I think we will, then I would be very happy to see contract extension for some of our new players, i.e. Lawton, Westwood and Benteke - they need to be on at least 4 years starting next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 i would have thought most of our new young signings would have had 4 year contracts as standard? they are getting more money than they had at their last clubs, a significant amount more i would guess so to give them more ould be counter productive in my view. remember lee hendrie? looked terrible each time a new contract for more money was given but looked a world beater ( well maybe not that good) in the last year of each contract if after the first year benteke has banged in 18 goals then maybe altering his contract to include incentives may be wise but villa are trying to keep wages managable so any wage increse would have to be carefully managed, the players may also think they have'made it' if after 12 months their already hugely increased wages go up more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Still early days, yet. Penultimate year of a contract always seems the ideal time for renewals for me, barring the sort of on-fire, world-beating performance over the course of a season that instantly elevates a player and necessitates tying them down there and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 An agent won't let his player sign a long contract unless it's a big contract. It makes it a bit of a gamble for the club then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes, a player won't sign a long contract unless it is for a garenteed fat wage but then you end up with more Habib Beye's and the like who won't move on if they fall out of favour becasue they won't get a better deal elsewhere. It is a bit of a blancing act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 lowton 4 year deal signed benteke 4 year deal signed westwood 4 year deal signed bennett 4 year deal signed bowery 3 year deal signed looks like they already have good length deals weiman baker clarke bannan all have contracts to 06/14 so they may need theirs looking at after january as they seem part of the first 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes I know the problems of given better deal, but this is players on lesser deals already and IF Benteke bangs in 15-18 goals this year it might be to late to tie him down. Look at what Sours did with Mordic - it made their hand a lot stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Slightly off topic - but are these players that young ? - the way we are going on you would think we are fielding a team of 17 years olds ? - Most of them are over 21 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 How many teams in the world are made up of players mostly under the age of 23? They're not exactly 'babies' but they are a very young side by any measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 How many teams in the world are made up of players mostly under the age of 23? They're not exactly 'babies' but they are a very young side by any measure. Agreed. But some of threads talk about how these players will develop for us - Ive seen the likes of Gary Shaw, Colin Gibson, Gordon Cowans, holding there own by that age. ok thats a while back - but how old was Kyle Walker, Gareth Barry, Gabby ? I think more thje issue is that the current squad needs to gel together - but if we are still 4th bottom in 12 months time, I don't think we should be using the young age of thje squad as an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 at what age do the youths get put on professional contracts from the youth scholarship? if its 18/19 then were looking at 22/23 if 4 yr contracts, even then isnt it around £5k to £10k per week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Agreed. But some of threads talk about how these players will develop for us - Ive seen the likes of Gary Shaw, Colin Gibson, Gordon Cowans, holding there own by that age. ok thats a while back - but how old was Kyle Walker, Gareth Barry, Gabby ? I think more thje issue is that the current squad needs to gel together - but if we are still 4th bottom in 12 months time, I don't think we should be using the young age of thje squad as an excuse. Think GB and Gabby were 18/19 when making regular starts...Walker was 20 at us I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Walker was 20 at us I think correct, was in my year at school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Think GB and Gabby were 18/19 when making regular starts...Walker was 20 at us I think Yep - so the likes of Lowton, Westwood, Bennett, Bannan, Clark, - Aren't really that young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thought Benteke signed a 3 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 correct, was in my year at school Random I know but this always interests me, what was he like? He seems like a grade A stand up guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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