GarethRDR Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Absolutely ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Absolutely ludicrous. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Utterly preposterous. That's a 20 year old bloke that isn't going to be able to get a job again. A life ruined for telling a joke. Very, very dangerous precedent, and the sort of thing there should be a lot more fuss about, but of course there won't be due to the moral panic about paedophiles and anything concerning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 The more ui think about this, the more angry I get. This is police state shit. When did the right to not be offended get enshrined in law? You don't get 12 weeks for burglary ffs. I can't believe more hasn't been made of this. Offending someone is now punishable by jail. There should be **** riots for less than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Half of VT will be locked up before long at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadude Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 It's ridiculous, I hate these crusaders that have to write in and complain that they didn't like this or that, that they were offended by what they saw or heard on the radio, tv or online website. If you don't like it, turn it off or switch it over you **** spastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just another form of trying to control our thoughts.. Soon there will be a limit on the number of times you can say '****' Don't get me wrong, I dont condone or agree with people making these sick, horrible jokes.. But locking someone up for making a joke, Its a big extreme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 9, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2012 This man sums up my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2012 I love that Steve Hughes bit. Bang on as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 haha great, one of my favourite comedians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 What was the 'joke'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 9, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2012 What was the 'joke'? Does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Was what he said in bad taste? Yes. Was it "grossly offensive?" No. . If he had said it in the street with a megaphone he would have been nicked and cautioned under S5 of the Public Order Act. 12 weeks in prison is totally and grossly excessive. I hope he appeals and I hope he wins. Saying it online is no different to saying it on the street and should be treated accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 9, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2012 A distinction needs to be made between twitter and facebook. They are quite different media in terms of publicity. With twitter it is completely public and you are; in essence; saying it to the world. So yes, you do need to be careful. It's just like walking up to someone in the street and saying it to them. Facebook is different in the sense that you are only saying it to a selected audience that you have chosen (assuming you are not posting 'public'). So I don't think that should have the same consequences because the analogy there is that you're saying it to your mates down the pub. If you post inappropriate stuff on facebook (and god knows I have) then your audience need to put up or shut up. If you do it on twitter then you must be prepared for the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2012 A distinction needs to be made between twitter and facebook. They are quite different media in terms of publicity. With twitter it is completely public and you are; in essence; saying it to the world. So yes, you do need to be careful. It's just like walking up to someone in the street and saying it to them. Facebook is different in the sense that you are only saying it to a selected audience that you have chosen (assuming you are not posting 'public'). So I don't think that should have the same consequences because the analogy there is that you're saying it to your mates down the pub. If you post inappropriate stuff on facebook (and god knows I have) then your audience need to put up or shut up. If you do it on twitter then you must be prepared for the consequences. Perhaps, but not in this particular case for me. The manner of this kind of thing being put out there isn't at all important for me - he could have been shouting it in the street for all I care. Causing offence, should not be an offence. If you are offended by something - deal with it. Had this been abuse (which in this case I think he would have had to have been specifically directing the comments at the direct family of Madeline McCann and April Jones) there'd be a case. But he didn't. I don't condone the jokes, but this is absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 9, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2012 Oh I totally agree Chindie, it is preposterous and you are right that offending someone shouldn't automatically be an offence. I was just making the more general point that people need to be careful of twitter in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Does it matter? Yes. I wouldn't have asked otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 9, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2012 It shouldn't matter. Her parents are still walking around freely, so it shouldn't matter what anyone else does or says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Twitter is pretty awful. I had two accounts suspended for comments that really weren't particularly offensive. Yet people like Leon Knight can do and say what he does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2012 The Guardian had a couple of the jokes in their article on it. I've not worked out how to do links on this yet but it's easily found. Not that it particularly matters what was said in this case, but there you are. I've heard worse on here, down the pub, I heard worse in the office last week to be perfectly honest. I'll expect plod will be marching the Guardian down the station for publishing such hideously offensive comments far more widely than the guy in the dock ever managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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