Qwpzxjor1 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I'm optimistic we won't go down, I'm also optimistic that we have some very good young players who will improve over the next few seasons. The loss to Southampton was a kick in the teeth, even away from home - but the way we bounced back in the League Cup and a tough point from a local derby makes me quite happy with the bunch we've got. We're not going to win every game, we may well end up in the nail-biting section of the table in the last quarter of the season, but I am optimistic we're moving in the right direction, and that's the main thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted October 1, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2012 i'm optimistic we're showing signs of progress with every game, and i don't think we're anywhere near the level PL can reach with this group. i expect this month to be more of the same, some downs and some surprising ups too in to the bargain. we'll be a couple of places higher than we are now come the end of the month, then bring on the big guns coz we'll shock a couple of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I think we'll beat spurs on the weekend so guess that puts me into the optimistic camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'm optimistic for the future rather than just for October - I'm perfectly happy that there will be good times and bad times as the side is formed but I've got a lot of time for Lambert and trust that he'll get the job done. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 October, the trees are stripped bare, of all they wear but what do I care :-) Fixtures - 7 Spurs (a) 2-2 20 Fulham (a) 1-1 27 Norwich (h) 2-0 30 Swindon (a) 1-3 villa win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Those results would be good - perhaps a little optimistic, I think we'll lose against either Spurs or Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 CI - a poet, but did he really know it? I can go with your predictions... Though I do fear a reversal at WHL. The others, sound perfectly reasonable to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Feeling pretty pessimistic right now to tell the truth. It is very easy to imagine us getting just a point from our next 7 games (A pumped up Norwich draws against us and straight losses to the rest). On the plus side I do know we will go full out to win every game and we have a squad with a lot of young players who will put in a hell of a shift, so that lifts me. Anyway, yeah feeling a bit down after the WBA result. We have not started the season well results wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think optimism or pessimism is dependant upon expectations. Mine are for us to be inconsistent and not finish near the top ten, so I am pretty optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Away to Fulham and Spurs is really tough, but lets face it we beat the champions at the Ethiad so anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 No Richard. Optimism or pessimism is dependent upon results not expectations, even though i do see the point your trying to make. As i have posted elsewhere our results have been poor now for the last two seasons and again at the beginning of this season. We have spent close to 40m over the past two windows yet results haven't improved and neither have our performances. We have over the last two and bit seasons lacked a cutting edge and continue to ship goals too easily. Lambert has re-constructed our defence, with no actual difference to our results. Lambert has also added to our midfield and forward line with no improvement to our results. He like previous managers with Bent as the exception, have purchased the wrong players when better quality was available to give us more of a cutting edge. We have wasted millions on no better than average players and we have done the same again. When you keep selling your better players and then keep replacing them with average replacements then you eventually end up with an average team which we now are. Only good results breed optimism and poor results breed pessimism. I have never been more pessimistic about our future than after watching us play this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Morpheus are you of the opinion that we are worse than last season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Spurs are beatable and Norwich. Its Fulham that I reckon could trip us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Spurs are beatable and Norwich. Its Fulham that I reckon could trip us up. Spurs could easily thrash us, as well...a lot of question marks with Villa right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 No Richard. Optimism or pessimism is dependent upon results not expectations, even though i do see the point your trying to make. As i have posted elsewhere our results have been poor now for the last two seasons and again at the beginning of this season. We have spent close to 40m over the past two windows yet results haven't improved and neither have our performances. We have over the last two and bit seasons lacked a cutting edge and continue to ship goals too easily. Lambert has re-constructed our defence, with no actual difference to our results. Lambert has also added to our midfield and forward line with no improvement to our results. He like previous managers with Bent as the exception, have purchased the wrong players when better quality was available to give us more of a cutting edge. We have wasted millions on no better than average players and we have done the same again. When you keep selling your better players and then keep replacing them with average replacements then you eventually end up with an average team which we now are. Only good results breed optimism and poor results breed pessimism. I have never been more pessimistic about our future than after watching us play this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Spurs are beatable and Norwich. Its Fulham that I reckon could trip us up. The topsy turvy nature of us at the moment could see us winning at spurs and losing at home to Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Morpheus are you of the opinion that we are worse than last season ? No mate about the same and therein lies the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djamfisher Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Better manager, better team (IMO), so I am confident about the long term future of the club. Due to the turnover of players, and changes in the sumer, it will take some time for this team to gel, and get the results I believe it can achieve. Long term I'm optimistic, as I believe Lambert will do a good job. This seaon, however, will be a tough season, and don't expect much higher than 13/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 No Richard. Optimism or pessimism is dependent upon results not expectations, even though i do see the point your trying to make. As i have posted elsewhere our results have been poor now for the last two seasons and again at the beginning of this season. We have spent close to 40m over the past two windows yet results haven't improved and neither have our performances. We have over the last two and bit seasons lacked a cutting edge and continue to ship goals too easily. Lambert has re-constructed our defence, with no actual difference to our results. Lambert has also added to our midfield and forward line with no improvement to our results. He like previous managers with Bent as the exception, have purchased the wrong players when better quality was available to give us more of a cutting edge. We have wasted millions on no better than average players and we have done the same again. When you keep selling your better players and then keep replacing them with average replacements then you eventually end up with an average team which we now are. Only good results breed optimism and poor results breed pessimism. I have never been more pessimistic about our future than after watching us play this season. Would actually like to know the reasons for the smiley? Do you disagree that we have lacked a cutting edge over the past two-three seasons? Do you disagree that we have had no creativity in our midfield for the same period? Do you disagree that we have purchased the wrong players some of whom we still can't get rid off when better players were available? Do you disagree that after a further expenditure of 17m-18m with our present manager our results have now improved? Please extend me your choices of wisdom on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 At least we are actually creating chances now, ok we are missing too many, but if we start converting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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