a-k Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, WakefieldVillan said: This. Listening to the match commentary when these play is making me dislike them more and more with each game - along with their horrible fan base (but that goes without saying ) But that aside, they are competing well, their matches are definitely entertaining to watch - but for all the attacking intent to their play, and they are really decent in this aspect - if I was a supporter I would be questioning why a manager of the calibre of Bielsa does not have a plan B when they are getting tonked by the better teams (conceding 6 at Man U, 4 at Liverpool, 4 at Palace, 4 v Leicester, 3 at Spurs) or why he chooses not to change things? Surely a world class manager would do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 hours ago, WakefieldVillan said: This. Listening to the match commentary when these play is making me dislike them more and more with each game - along with their horrible fan base (but that goes without saying ) But that aside, they are competing well, their matches are definitely entertaining to watch - but for all the attacking intent to their play, and they are really decent in this aspect - if I was a supporter I would be questioning why a manager of the calibre of Bielsa does not have a plan B when they are getting tonked by the better teams (conceding 6 at Man U, 4 at Liverpool, 4 at Palace, 4 v Leicester, 3 at Spurs) or why he chooses not to change things? Surely a world class manager would do this? yep if Bielsa was on the ball he should have a centre half in the door already, yes its newly promoted Leeds but this is the greatest manager in the world so players should be jumping to sign for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 10 hours ago, WakefieldVillan said: This. Listening to the match commentary when these play is making me dislike them more and more with each game - along with their horrible fan base (but that goes without saying ) But that aside, they are competing well, their matches are definitely entertaining to watch - but for all the attacking intent to their play, and they are really decent in this aspect - if I was a supporter I would be questioning why a manager of the calibre of Bielsa does not have a plan B when they are getting tonked by the better teams (conceding 6 at Man U, 4 at Liverpool, 4 at Palace, 4 v Leicester, 3 at Spurs) or why he chooses not to change things? Surely a world class manager would do this? Yes, I kind of think this as well. In the analysis after the United game, it was all 'well, that's just Bielsa isn't it, we know he won't change, but that's what makes him a genius as well', and it just doesn't seem like genius to me. It seems like stubbornness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 They're just a fashionable 2010 Blackpool, with 120 odd million to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Keyblade said: They're just a fashionable 2010 Blackpool, with 120 odd million to spend. They won't be a new Blackpool if they stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 12 hours ago, Zatman said: yep if Bielsa was on the ball he should have a centre half in the door already, yes its newly promoted Leeds but this is the greatest manager in the world so players should be jumping to sign for him They signed a good one in the summer who's played regularly for Spain in last few years but he seems to be their Martin Laursen, don't think he's played a game yet as was injured when he turned up and stayed injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 17 hours ago, Keyblade said: They're just a fashionable 2010 Blackpool, with 120 odd million to spend. I don't understand the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, PaulC said: I don't understand the comparison. They play very similar style with no emphasis on defence. Blackpool got 55 goals which is probably a record for a relegated team but conceded nearly 80. Maybe Ian Holloway should have got a bucket and a translator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, Zatman said: They play very similar style with no emphasis on defence. Blackpool got 55 goals which is probably a record for a relegated team but conceded nearly 80. Maybe Ian Holloway should have got a bucket and a translator I still find it hard to see the comparison. Think there styles are totally different. Couldn't really play that high energy full of running game with a Charlie Adam in the side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, PaulC said: I still find it hard to see the comparison. Think there styles are totally different. Couldn't really play that high energy full of running game with a Charlie Adam in the side. well Blackpool didnt have the money or squad of Leeds but had a fast paced game with Adam as playmaker in teh Phillips role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted January 5, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Zatman said: Phillips role Not even half a season and he's dethroned Pirlo as the default reference for deep playmakers. Some boy 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Not even half a season and he's dethroned Pirlo as the default reference for deep playmakers. Some boy well Pirlo replaced Eirik Bakke in that position so these things easily change 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Rino8 said: Not even half a season and he's dethroned Pirlo as the default reference for deep playmakers. Some boy To be fair, it would be sacrilege to compare Kalvin Phillips to Pirlo. Edited January 6, 2021 by Greenfly Wrong player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 6, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 6, 2021 14 hours ago, Rino8 said: Not even half a season and he's dethroned Pirlo as the default reference for deep playmakers. Some boy Tongue in cheek no doubt. He's a good player, as are Jordan Henderson and Declan Rice who are fairly similar. They do the kind of job that doesn't get a lot of praise from some, and are effective at it, but none of those 3 are remotely as good as Pirlo was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 On 05/01/2021 at 02:21, Keyblade said: They're just a fashionable 2010 Blackpool, with 120 odd million to spend. Managed by the Argentinian Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, blandy said: Tongue in cheek no doubt. He's a good player, as are Jordan Henderson and Declan Rice who are fairly similar. They do the kind of job that doesn't get a lot of praise from some, and are effective at it, but none of those 3 are remotely as good as Pirlo was. Yep, most teams need a dog in their side. Scrapping for ball or picking it up off the centre backs and spraying a 30 yard ball out wide to a full back under no pressure - basically what Phillips does. He does that because he hasn't the ability to beat 2 or 3 men. Or score goals. Or create (m)any goals. Also a bit tongue in cheek. He's decent - But if I had the choice of him or Luiz I would choose the latter all day long. As for Pirlo, without turning full on Ray Wilkins "my word, what a player" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, WakefieldVillan said: Yep, most teams need a dog in their side. Scrapping for ball or picking it up off the centre backs and spraying a 30 yard ball out wide to a full back under no pressure - basically what Phillips does. He does that because he hasn't the ability to beat 2 or 3 men. Or score goals. Or create (m)any goals. Also a bit tongue in cheek. He's decent - But if I had the choice of him or Luiz I would choose the latter all day long. As for Pirlo, without turning full on Ray Wilkins "my word, what a player" I think Luiz has more upside to his game. Philips might get a big move but i think he will struggle and end up at West Ham or Newcastle level which isnt too bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Bielsa the absolute genius back at it yet again. Leeds ripping up the rule book and bringing a whole different brand of football to the country yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The Leeds philosophy working. 2-0 down lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Kiko Casilla is one of the worst keepers I've ever seen. Leeds probably wouldn't even have been promoted if he'd stayed as their number one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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