Stevo985 Posted January 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2019 21 hours ago, bobzy said: I can see the difference, there’s just nothing to it. As I said, a load of fuss about nothing. Shrug. Well you seemed to be directly comparing them earlier. It might be a fuss about nothing, but there's a clear difference between scouting opponents' games and spying on stuff that's specifically being kept behind closed doors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I can't help but notice my question about bugging the away dressing room has gone unanswered. I can't see any reason why taking photos from the bushes would be okay, and bugging dressing rooms wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted January 13, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2019 Will Frank Lampard be handing back his 04/05 and 05/06 title medals? Or his 05/06 FA Cup Medal? Or his 2 League cup medals from the same period? Or the many many individual awards he got during Joses first spell at Chelsea. I only ask because its common knowledge that AVB used to sneak around spying on opposition training sessions and report back to Jose. Frank cant claim not to know this, even if you believe a senior player like Lampard wasnt told, it was in the national papers at the time. Ferguson had a helicopter fly over the City training ground before the Manchester derby. Its interesting that players at the top of the tree with titles and things are totally unbothered, Carragher, Neville, Linekar, Gazza etc, largely its the nearly men who are outraged. Football is a shady business and clubs find out information in so many different ways. Its hypocritical of Lampard who benifited from the same thing and the press who as Neville pointed out go to extreme lengths to get information, no room for them to criticise Bielsa. Should he have done it, probably not, is it totally unheard of in this country, no, 2 of the most successful managers in world football history both did it in this country. Faux outrage by hypocritical media. Fair play to those who called it out for what it was, including fans and players from both Manchester Clubs which was a shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted January 13, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2019 We've got Jermaine Jenas giving Bielsa stick and questioning his coaching ability. Thats like the bloke who operates the deep fat fryer down your local chippy giving Gordon Ramsey a hard time. Ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cjay said: We've got Jermaine Jenas giving Bielsa stick and questioning his coaching ability. Thats like the bloke who operates the deep fat fryer down your local chippy giving Gordon Ramsey a hard time. Ridiculous Yeah but in fairness, Gordon Ramsey is a bit of a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Cjay said: Will Frank Lampard be handing back his 04/05 and 05/06 title medals? Or his 05/06 FA Cup Medal? Or his 2 League cup medals from the same period? Or the many many individual awards he got during Joses first spell at Chelsea. I only ask because its common knowledge that AVB used to sneak around spying on opposition training sessions and report back to Jose. Frank cant claim not to know this, even if you believe a senior player like Lampard wasnt told, it was in the national papers at the time. Ferguson had a helicopter fly over the City training ground before the Manchester derby. Its interesting that players at the top of the tree with titles and things are totally unbothered, Carragher, Neville, Linekar, Gazza etc, largely its the nearly men who are outraged. Football is a shady business and clubs find out information in so many different ways. Its hypocritical of Lampard who benifited from the same thing and the press who as Neville pointed out go to extreme lengths to get information, no room for them to criticise Bielsa. Should he have done it, probably not, is it totally unheard of in this country, no, 2 of the most successful managers in world football history both did it in this country. Faux outrage by hypocritical media. Fair play to those who called it out for what it was, including fans and players from both Manchester Clubs which was a shock. Leeds fans are still mega words removed though. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I must admit, I fail to see much of a big deal about it. Yes, it shouldn’t be done, and if you get caught you must take it on the chin. Bit OTT from some people though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Training ground? Nah we get our information in the kebab shop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I must admit, I fail to see much of a big deal about it. Yes, it shouldn’t be done, and if you get caught you must take it on the chin. Bit OTT from some people though. This is where I am and I hate Leeds. People asking for them to be hit with a points deduction is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Leeds going up and us not makes this season even more depressing. I think West Brom will get 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: Training ground? Nah we get our information in the kebab shop. So mate what did Bielsa order? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Zatman said: So mate what did Bielsa order? Safe bet is he ordered something from the Barbeque. He's crazy about meat. On another note Leeds are linked with a couple of keepers in the papers, among others Real Madrid reserve Kiko Casilla and Fraser Foster from Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, sne said: Safe bet is he ordered something from the Barbeque. He's crazy about meat. On another note Leeds are linked with a couple of keepers in the papers, among others Real Madrid reserve Kiko Casilla and Fraser Foster from Southampton If that's the case I might have join Leeds forum to warn them about FFP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: If that's the case I might have join Leeds forum to warn them about FFP Casilla is apparently available on a free. No idea about Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I don't actually mind Leeds, saw an interesting stat that the vast majority of their games have featured an academy player , something like 4508 games in their history and fielded an academy player 4504 times . They are now where I would like us to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, sne said: Casilla is apparently available on a free. No idea about Foster. Not sure how much he would cost but Hasenhüttl has reported told Foster he can leave, so he probably wouldn't command a big fee. Edited January 14, 2019 by Hornso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Hornso said: Not sure how much he would cost but Hasenhüttl has reported told Foster he can leave, so he probably wouldn't command a big fee. maybe but he is probably on about 80-100k a week, signed a 5 year contract just 18 months ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 15, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2019 i see they're being formally investigated by EFL for spygate...imagine a smack on the wrists and a token fine would be sufficient i'm more amazed that their keeper hasnt been banned for a game or 3 for that disgraceful kick he put in...that was violent conduct for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 15, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i see they're being formally investigated by EFL for spygate...imagine a smack on the wrists and a token fine would be sufficient Given that it breaks no explicit rule, the FA will do well to charge them with anything other than a generic interpretation of bringing the game into disrepute. A slap on the wrist seems most likely. Oh and a brand new rule about not spying on opponents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 16, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16, 2019 emergency press conference @ 5pm - rumours of bielsa resignation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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