Zatman Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 3 hours ago, MellbergsBeard said: Paul Mersons' views on Martinez and Stones are spot on although I can't believe it's taken the media this long to realise Martinez is poor. It was a great rant and he got everything spot on. His Men in Black reference was genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) I like merse. More because of his men in black type references than his actual football/tactic knowledge. And think he works well on GSS But if there's a quote which sums him up it was from that rant bashing martimez-everton. 'why aren't Everton above Leicester? Hardly any players would get into that Everton team'... Err..what. Edited January 31, 2016 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, gharperr said: I like merse. More because of his men in black type references than his actual football/tactic knowledge. And think he works well on GSS But if there's a quote which sums him up it was from that rant bashing martimez-everton. 'why aren't Everton above Leicester? Hardly any players would get into that Everton team'... Err..what. he is right though. Lukaku, Coleman, Baines, Barkley, Barry, Deleofeu, Cleverley are all better than their Leicester equivalent and by a distance as well plus others like McCarthy, Mirallas, Lennon and Besic wouldnt be far behind them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Yeh martinez. Why aren't you top of the league? How dare you. You got better players so why aren't you over achieving to redic heights. May Aswell sack every manager who's in top10. They're all not first with a better squad. Edited January 31, 2016 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, gharperr said: Yeh martinez. Why aren't you top of the league? How dare you. You got better players so why aren't you over achieving to redic heights. he has won 6 games in 23 this season. 14 of the last 50 games. fact media dont criticize him is shocking if he was called Bob Martin he be managing in League 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Everton should be where Palace and West Ham are, even Liverpool with their change of manager and transition. That was the level they were more or less under Moyes each season and the best strikers he had were Yakubu and Saha, Lukaku obviously has a higher ceiling than those two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Stones is obscenely overrated because he's English and Martinez is an absolute fraud of a manager. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 9 hours ago, Zatman said: he has won 6 games in 23 this season. 14 of the last 50 games. fact media dont criticize him is shocking if he was called Bob Martin he be managing in League 1 Yeh I agree about he needs to be criticised but at least do it properly without making silly statements like merse did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Stones is obscenely overrated because he's English and Martinez is an absolute fraud of a manager. Stones is very good on the ball, this is rare for English centre halves, this skill blinds people to his more fundamental flaws, very overrated player, Everton are stupid for not cashing in last summer's window. Martinez, well, he's shite, all of his teams are a shambles at the back and he fails time after time to sign a good centre half. I mean he spent nearly £10m on a total clown like Funes Mori FFS. Edited February 1, 2016 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Adrian Durham on talkshite this afternoon, starts the show by asking who should start for England in the euros, and stated that vardy should start ahead of Rooney no matter what 10 minutes later he was saying vardy should only play if we are going to play kick and rush, because vardy can only play 1 way he was essentially arguing with himself. id love to know how much this tit gets paid for this cushy job. Edited February 4, 2016 by Jimzk5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Why do we so often get former small heath players commentating on our games? If it's not Trevor Francis on the 15:00 games it's Savage on BT. words removed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 1 hour ago, coda said: Why do we so often get former small heath players commentating on our games? If it's not Trevor Francis on the 15:00 games it's Savage on BT. words removed! Whilst I'm no fan of savage, I thought he was a very fair commentator on Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2016 Adrian Durham on talkshite this afternoon, starts the show by asking who should start for England in the euros, and stated that vardy should start ahead of Rooney no matter what 10 minutes later he was saying vardy should only play if we are going to play kick and rush, because vardy can only play 1 way he was essentially arguing with himself. id love to know how much this tit gets paid for this cushy job. I guarantee it was because too many people were agreeing with him at first so he changed his mind to wind people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 4 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Whilst I'm no fan of savage, I thought he was a very fair commentator on Tuesday Yes, he was alright on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 He was fair, but he's one of those commentators that is constantly moaning about something. Even if he's right, it just gets so annoying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 4th February 2016 talksport start the england can win it bullshit campaign, featuring arry redknapp claiming spain and germany are nothing special, durham claiming half the england squad are world class and some other muppet claiming alli and barkley are the best 2 youngsters in world football we do it to ourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: 4th February 2016 talksport start the england can win it bullshit campaign, featuring arry redknapp claiming spain and germany are nothing special, durham claiming half the england squad are world class and some other muppet claiming alli and barkley are the best 2 youngsters in world football we do it to ourselves 'we' deserve the inevitable failure. TBH I haven't given a shit about the national team since France 98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: 4th February 2016 talksport start the england can win it bullshit campaign, featuring arry redknapp claiming spain and germany are nothing special, durham claiming half the england squad are world class and some other muppet claiming alli and barkley are the best 2 youngsters in world football we do it to ourselves To be fair I think the hype around the England team is very low these days. Back in the 90's and early 2000's a lot of english fans believed we could genuinely win any tournament we went into. I don't think the majority of fans and media think that anymore. There will still be the odd idiots like Talksport who spout it. But I don't thin kyou'll find many fans genuinely believing we can win the Euros. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 2002 was the last one for me (on a personal level, i was 18, on exam leave, my mom was on holiday) if we'd have beat brazil i think we'd have won it (and IMHO we should have) the problem with the building up of us beforehand is the lack of questions that will be asked after, not so much of woy who will be slaughtered, but if barkley is this and that what will be said if he has a quiet tournament? vardy is playing out of his skin, what will be said if his work rate drops dramatically when he's in an england shirt? it'll be back to winter breaks and foreigners as the boys club protect their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 Nah 2004 for me. I still think we should have won that tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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