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20 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said:

It happens everywhere though. 

We finished 4th at the world cup, so these players must have developed to a decent level. 

That was the most underhyped English team in history though

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17 hours ago, kurtsimonw said:

We finished 4th at the world cup, so these players must have developed to a decent level. 

In the world cup England beat Panama, Tunisia (via a 90th minute goal from a corner) and Sweden. They lost to Belgium (twice), Croatia and drew with Colombia. If you take those matches on their own outside the prism of a competition it's a very unimpressive set of results. 

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6 hours ago, villa89 said:

In the world cup England beat Panama, Tunisia (via a 90th minute goal from a corner) and Sweden. They lost to Belgium (twice), Croatia and drew with Colombia. If you take those matches on their own outside the prism of a competition it's a very unimpressive set of results. 

Why would you take it out of the competition context though? The fact is England did a lot better than expected in the World Cup and came 4th

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13 hours ago, mikeyp102 said:

Why would you take it out of the competition context though? The fact is England did a lot better than expected in the World Cup and came 4th

Because that's what gives you a true reflection of England's level. 

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england national team for me has been for a long time a case of set it up right, motivation, momentum and luck

in the summer we got all of that

actual world class footballing quality we did not, even if you just looked at harry kane and stated how amazing it was he got the golden boot he's "world class"* if you did an in depth analysis of his performance at the world cup and then looked at his goals he wasnt really was he?

*im not saying that he's not world class

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