Popular Post darrenm Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, commander said: Westwood has been a model professional? Absolute garbage. Respectful of the club? If not performing and not doing your job fits your criteria then congratulations your standards are unimaginably low. He's been attrocious ever since he's been here - bar around maybe 5 games - hasn't improved, doesn't work on his game (evidenced by his complete lack of progress). You'd have thought in 5 years!! he'd have learnt how to defend, tackle, heads the ball , or even jump up for headers with his eyes open? He like many of the others is weak, and mentally fragile - he plays in the most importnat position on the pitch and we're far, far shitter when he's in the team. Look at the difference in Gana not having this tumour next to him. People will bring up his passing stats (which are pretty good) but guess what it's easy to play unadventerous, simple, (often) sideways balls but our team doesn't need someone to keep the ball, we need someone to affect a game,to make tackles, win tackles, dominate a game, a strong mentaility and physical nature. I think he deserves to be booed, as his presence in the team is massively detrimental to our aim of getting promoted. He played a prominent part in our 13 games without a win, then he's found out, we win 2 on the spin without him. He needs to be let go - try to rebuild his career, find his level which there's very little to suggest is at this level. I can understand fans not liking booing - but the game has changed blind allegiance isn't relevant now - these lazy, useless, talentless clearings in the woods are getting paid millions for underperforming and being generally shit. FWIW I also think the other shit, should be booed too - but unlike Westwood they have actually achieved something in the game - maybe that makes them worse? But least they have (or had in the case of Gabby, Lescott & Richards) achieved something in the game and not literally, done nothing. He's a nobody and besides us no one will remember him, in 5 years let alone 20 years time. What's worse than a handful of fans booing this disgrace of a footballer? The Westwood apologists. Now people saying the booing has made him a bad player. No, his lack of talent, drive, determination, heart, strength (physical and mental) is what makes him a bad player. We haven't booed for 5 years. Grow up 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villaphan04 Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, commander said: I think he deserves to be booed, as his presence in the team is massively detrimental to our aim of getting promoted. booing our players is detrimental to our team. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, commander said: Westwood has been a model professional? Absolute garbage. Respectful of the club? If not performing and not doing your job fits your criteria then congratulations your standards are unimaginably low. He's been attrocious ever since he's been here - bar around maybe 5 games - hasn't improved, doesn't work on his game (evidenced by his complete lack of progress). You'd have thought in 5 years!! he'd have learnt how to defend, tackle, heads the ball , or even jump up for headers with his eyes open? He like many of the others is weak, and mentally fragile - he plays in the most importnat position on the pitch and we're far, far shitter when he's in the team. Look at the difference in Gana not having this tumour next to him. People will bring up his passing stats (which are pretty good) but guess what it's easy to play unadventerous, simple, (often) sideways balls but our team doesn't need someone to keep the ball, we need someone to affect a game,to make tackles, win tackles, dominate a game, a strong mentaility and physical nature. I think he deserves to be booed, as his presence in the team is massively detrimental to our aim of getting promoted. He played a prominent part in our 13 games without a win, then he's found out, we win 2 on the spin without him. He needs to be let go - try to rebuild his career, find his level which there's very little to suggest is at this level. I can understand fans not liking booing - but the game has changed blind allegiance isn't relevant now - these lazy, useless, talentless clearings in the woods are getting paid millions for underperforming and being generally shit. FWIW I also think the other shit, should be booed too - but unlike Westwood they have actually achieved something in the game - maybe that makes them worse? But least they have (or had in the case of Gabby, Lescott & Richards) achieved something in the game and not literally, done nothing. He's a nobody and besides us no one will remember him, in 5 years let alone 20 years time. What's worse than a handful of fans booing this disgrace of a footballer? The Westwood apologists. Now people saying the booing has made him a bad player. No, his lack of talent, drive, determination, heart, strength (physical and mental) is what makes him a bad player. We haven't booed for 5 years. As KHV said previously, you don't deserve to set foot in Villa Park ever again if you boo a player if he hasn't done anything against the club, other than poor performances. He isn't the first to perform badly and won't be the last. Some bits are just staggering. "He deserves to be booed" "Westwood apologists" "He's a nobody" Honestly the most pathetic post I've read on this site. It reads as total rabid hate of one of our players. Edited October 23, 2016 by StefanAVFC 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadoftrinity Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I didn't hear any boos, I was in the lower holte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 25 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: As KHV said previously, you don't deserve to set foot in Villa Park ever again if you boo a player if he hasn't done anything against the club, other than poor performances. He isn't the first to perform badly and won't be the last. Some bits are just staggering. "He deserves to be booed" "Westwood apologists" "He's a nobody" Honestly the most pathetic post I've read on this site. It reads as total rabid hate of one of our players. 25 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: As KHV said previously, you don't deserve to set foot in Villa Park ever again if you boo a player if he hasn't done anything against the club, other than poor performances. Poor performances don't Warrant booing? What can fans do to show their discontent. We're you horrified by the 'sacked in the morning' chants aimed at RDM by our away fans. He did nothing but perform poorly. As for saying people don't deserve to step foot in villa park.... seriously, wtf are you on about? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, Woodytom said: Poor performances don't Warrant booing? What can fans do to show their discontent. As for saying people don't deserve to step foot in villa park.... seriously, wtf are you on about? Players don't deserve to be booed onto the pitch. Ever. Especially considering the only crime Westwood is guilty of is not playing well enough. If you boo a player ONTO the pitch for that reason, you simply shouldn't come to Villa Park. You're not a fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Players don't deserve to be booed onto the pitch. Ever. Especially considering the only crime Westwood is guilty of is not playing well enough. If you boo a player ONTO the pitch for that reason, you simply shouldn't come to Villa Park. You're not a fan. We're you bothered about the chants towards RDM. Yes or no? Should the people who sang those chants be allowed in villa park? Why do you avoid the questions that derive from your drivel? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villadodo Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Playing with 10 men when he's on the pitch and has been that way for the best part of the last 5 years. Nothing but pass the ball sideways. Run away from the play. Doesn't mark his man just lets them run away from him and points for someone else to chase them. No coincidence we've won since Bruce dropped him. I can understand the booing. So many managers have continued to pick him how else are the fans supposed to get their point across. He is not good enough. At the same time I do have sympathy for him it can't be pleasant knowing your so unpopular. He doesn't seem like a bad guy he is just not very good at football. Would be best for everyone if he left in January but I can't see why anyone would buy him. Especially on PL wages. As for the guy quoting Sherwood, Lambert and Adrian Durham. Those are two of the least successful managers in Villa history both of whom loved Westwood and were subsequently sacked for their poor results (which Westwood played a part in). The other is a journalist with no more insight than the average fan who is no doubt basing his opinions on hearsay and a limited number of Villa games he's actually watched. I would certainly trust my own eyes as well as the opinions of other Villa fans who watch our games week in week out ahead of Adrian Durham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, Woodytom said: We're you bothered about the chants towards RDM. Yes or no? Should the people who sang those chants be allowed in villa park? Why do you avoid the questions that derive from your drivel? You're doing the same thing as the Adomah thread. Total false equivalence. They're not the same thing. You know that. But I'll pander to you. If RDM was booed when he walked into the stadium, I'd question those people. That would be totally out of order. Just like booing Westwood onto the pitch is disgraceful. Not hard to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, StefanAVFC said: You're doing the same thing as the Adomah thread. Total false equivalence. They're not the same thing. You know that. But I'll pander to you. If RDM was booed when he walked into the stadium, I'd question those people. That would be totally out of order. Just like booing Westwood onto the pitch is disgraceful. Not hard to grasp. Not different things at all. Both were jeers aimed at people associated with the club performing poorly. One you disliked and one you like. You didn't have an issue with the boos/chants aimed at RDM. You have an issue with the ones aimed at Westwood. Totally contradictory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 You're drawing false equivalence between the two. Even when very clearly explained to you. Absolutely pointless conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, StefanAVFC said: You're drawing false equivalence between the two. Even when very clearly explained to you. Absolutely pointless conversation. No, you're stating their false equivalence when they're not. You've given absolutely no reason as to why they are false equivalence. Ones a manager, ones a player. Both associated to villa and both no doubt unmotivated by jeers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Woodytom said: No, you're stating their false equivalence when they're not. You've given absolutely no reason as to why they are false equivalence. Aside from the fact that I did? I'll link it for you so you don't miss it again. 9 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: You're doing the same thing as the Adomah thread. Total false equivalence. They're not the same thing. You know that. But I'll pander to you. If RDM was booed when he walked into the stadium, I'd question those people. That would be totally out of order. Just like booing Westwood onto the pitch is disgraceful. Not hard to grasp. Clearly talking about a player being booed onto the field. I'd condemn fans booing RDM into the stadium in exactly the same way. Regardless of my opinion on him. I've very clearly explained this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 48 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: As KHV said previously, you don't deserve to set foot in Villa Park ever again if you boo a player if he hasn't done anything against the club, other than poor performances. Why are you suddenly making out that you were only referring to when Westwood came onto the pitch? 14 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: You're doing the same thing as the Adomah thread. Total false equivalence. They're not the same thing. You know that. But I'll pander to you. If RDM was booed when he walked into the stadium, I'd question those people. That would be totally out of order. Just like booing Westwood onto the pitch is disgraceful. Not hard to grasp. So. Let's leave the coming onto the pitch behind. You're clearly unhappy with people booing Westwood full stop. Why didn't you voice discontent when people booed RDM? In fact, where on earth did singling out the situation of them coming onto the pitch come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted October 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2016 Booing our OWN is shameful. I've seen players do far worse and perform far worse and still be cheered off the pitch. Is it something to do with this generation? They think because a player isn't good enough he deserves to be booed? Incredible. Shocking. Sickening. Leaving this thread because I don't want to get angry. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Some very, VERY strange fans we have is all I can say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Fwiw, I don't boo. I don't go at all so I can't boo. But I wouldn't. But to call players our OWN. Nah not for me. Football is no longer 'the peoples game'. There's very little togetherness. Not Ashley Westwood's fault. It's a sport of mercenaries. I have no time for them, they are a huge part of the problems within the game, and in the grand scheme of things..... asides from performing for villa, I don't give two shits about them as ppl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Villaphan04 said: booing our players is detrimental to our team. Saved me some typing, this is spot on. Singling a player out for booing is just crazy, how on earth can it help Aston Villa FC? Edited October 23, 2016 by NeilS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) I cannot believe the absolute rubbish i have read justifying the poor treatment of one of our players. Shame on you so called fans. You guys are a part of whats wrong with this football club. Edited October 23, 2016 by Reivax_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, NeilS said: Saved me some typing, this is spot on. Singling a player out for booing is just crazy, how on earth can it help Aston Villa FC? How can booing the manager help AVFC? Nobody ever has an issue with this. Why? The players are protected so much, it's cringe worthy. Listening to drive time last night. According to Darren Gough, it's Aston villa and west brom's fault that gabby and berahino aren't in shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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