Stevo985 Posted September 6, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2014 I think we should base all our opinions of Ashley Westwood when he was not very good. Not basing him on this season at all.. The thing is, he's always been pretty good for us. He's had bad spells, which you'd expect from a youngster who'd never played above League 2 before we signed him. But generally speaking he's always been a good performer for us. Woody has already admitted that he doesn't really rate Westwood and that his judgement of him will always be affected by that. He's also shown that he criticises him because his expectations are unreasonably high. So his rating of him will probably always be behind that of the average villa fan. And that's fine. Just saying we'll probably never agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Still the Westwood bashing? What does he need to do? Score 40 goals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 We signed him from crewe when they were in league one, not sure why peeps keep saying he'd never played above league two!! Rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 They only just got promoted to League One that season. He played all his football (bar possibly a couple of games) in League Two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr_Pangloss Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 ... and he's done pretty **** well for a player who has essentially stepped up from League Two. He's looked nothing less than a premier league player since he has been here. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 ... and he's done pretty **** well for a player who has essentially stepped up from League Two. He's looked nothing less than a premier league player since he has been here. Well apart from that first game against Southampton where he probably froze a bit. Westwood kicked on from that point becoming consistent, Lowton on the other hand.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 ... and he's done pretty **** well for a player who has essentially stepped up from League Two. He's looked nothing less than a premier league player since he has been here. And quickly turning into a good quality PL player to boot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 ... and he's done pretty **** well for a player who has essentially stepped up from League Two. He's looked nothing less than a premier league player since he has been here. Well apart from that first game against Southampton where he probably froze a bit. Westwood kicked on from that point becoming consistent, Lowton on the other hand.. Who ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He's a decent player and has been a good signing. But now defence is improved its time for the midfield. Westwood IMO is the one we need to replace to become a much better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Massive step up from his original league. He's doing well in a premier league side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He's a decent player and has been a good signing. But now defence is improved its time for the midfield. Westwood IMO is the one we need to replace to become a much better team. So even though he's been really good so far, we still need to replace him? Will the underrating ever stop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So what better way of hindering his future football development by placing him on the bench eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 7, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2014 We signed him from crewe when they were in league one, not sure why peeps keep saying he'd never played above league two!! Rant overbecause they'd only just been promoted from league 2 and we signed him before he played in League 1 "Rant over" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Ian Wright on Twitter: Morning all. With all the names being mentioned for the England squad I wonder if Roy's gonna have a look at villa's Ashley Westwood ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He's a decent player and has been a good signing. But now defence is improved its time for the midfield. Westwood IMO is the one we need to replace to become a much better team. So even though he's been really good so far, we still need to replace him? Will the underrating ever stop? Yes because that's how you get better. You improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He's a decent player and has been a good signing. But now defence is improved its time for the midfield. Westwood IMO is the one we need to replace to become a much better team. So even though he's been really good so far, we still need to replace him? Will the underrating ever stop? Yes because that's how you get better. You improve. Yes, you're right. So you'd bench a constantly improving player? Which completely goes against what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh621 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You've tempted me in. So he can play defensive midfielder, but can't tackle, cover runs, anticipate danger, or cover space........so not a good defensive midfielder. Get a DM, and move him forward!!......to do what, hes not a no 10 player, he can't beat a man, he doesn't score enough goals, and doesn't create enough. I don't blame Westwood, hes an ok player.Hes not a good passer, hes average, hes not physical, hes not quick, and hes not aggressive enough.Why he is so highly rated on here is , to me , a sad indictment of how far we have fallen, that a bang average footballer is so highly rated. Is he one of our better players?....possibly, but that doesn't make him a good player, we are incredibly poor at the moment unfortunately. He's actually a quality passer. He was amazing at Crewe and i watched him a lot. Like you said he's not incredible and just because he's one of our best players it doesn't make him good - that's also true. Obvious - but true. He's still a young and talented player and i dont get why you're slating him so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I tried reading through the arguments on Westwood for the last 10-15 pages and have just been completely baffled. In my opinion, over the last 2 seasons he's been a better, more consistent player than say, Cleverley. Who was rated at £7-8mil with a year left on his contract. So my question would be to the people constantly underrating him, how much do you think he's worth in today's market and who could you see him signing for? I strongly believe if he wasn't at this club he would be viewed alongside the likes of Rodwell and Cleverley, as an £8-12mil midfield player. I feel the main reason he's disliked is because people can't cope with the idea of competition, Delph has to start, there is hype around Sanchez and Cleverley, therefore they are the 3 good midfielders and everyone else who wants to play in their positions at this club are not good enough for our club/ this league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I rate him higher than Cleverley. No way will Cleverley walk straight into the midfield. Id be surprised if the line-up for Liverpool is changed at all we've started the same for every league game so far. Fingers crossed we can come up with a similar performance to last years Andield visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I tried reading through the arguments on Westwood for the last 10-15 pages and have just been completely baffled. In my opinion, over the last 2 seasons he's been a better, more consistent player than say, Cleverley. Who was rated at £7-8mil with a year left on his contract. So my question would be to the people constantly underrating him, how much do you think he's worth in today's market and who could you see him signing for? I strongly believe if he wasn't at this club he would be viewed alongside the likes of Rodwell and Cleverley, as an £8-12mil midfield player. I feel the main reason he's disliked is because people can't cope with the idea of competition, Delph has to start, there is hype around Sanchez and Cleverley, therefore they are the 3 good midfielders and everyone else who wants to play in their positions at this club are not good enough for our club/ this league Yes probably between 8 and 10 mill. Not a top 4 player though but is one of the first names on our team sheet for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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