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he didnt really walk on the moon though, did he....

No, getting a living object through the Van Allen belt is impossible

Anyway RIP

Guess Buzz Aldrin will clear up the after dinner circuit now

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he didnt really walk on the moon though, did he....

No, getting a living object through the Van Allen belt is impossible

Anyway RIP

Guess Buzz Aldrin will clear up the after dinner circuit now

"Anyway" .... he says, as if making a stupendously idiotic error is insignificant.

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The moon landings happened. Fact.

he didnt really walk on the moon though, did he....

No, getting a living object through the Van Allen belt is impossible

Anyway RIP

No it isn't.

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I'm sorry but if there was no landing then there is no way that there wouldn't have been a mole that didn't reveal it all. There wasn't just the 3 astronauts & one guy looking at a computer screen, there are dozens of people helping to make it happen. Also, why would they fake it another 4 times with other people that have supposedly gone to the moon? It just doesn't make sense. They went, get over it.

It's just like the 9/11 conspiracies, a total load of bollocks.

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I'm sure he did. I am surprised nobody has been back in almost 50 years. I know it's expensive but you'd have thought Russia, India or China may have gone ??

The Chinese and Indians are only now starting to really get going on manned space flight. Landing on the moon is very much a prestige event - it doesn't actually achieve much beyond saying you've been capable of it.

The Americans and Soviets had the space race in the 50s and 60s and, almost universally, the Soviets beat the Americans to every landmark. They were doing everything as far as space was concerned and the Americans left behind. Kennedy realised this looked bad and looked for a landmark that the Soviets had not yet reached and chose to focus on that goal almost exclusively - for the build up to the moon landings everything NASA does is focused on the long term goal of man on the moon. Meanwhile the Soviets, who would like to go to the moon as well, are also investigating other space related endeavours and not wholly focussing on achieving man on the moon... so the American's beat them to it on the single endeavour they chose to win. You can think of it as the American's getting battered in a football match and suddenly deciding on a single quite difficult goal to score will let them say they won the whole the thing.

The Chinese and Indians are now interested in the prestige of being a nation capable of doing what is considered the ultimate in human achievement, putting man on the moon, so they both are now planning to do it, as a prestigious moment for their nations, as new boys on the power block comparatively and new boys to space endeavours. The Soviets (and now Russians) basically abandoned their plans to land on the moon when the American's achieved it - they didn't really have anything to prove and since the Americans had already done it (and the USSR/Russia had it's own achievements in space anyway), they just didn't bother. And now theres not much point bothering as far as they're concerned.

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Also, what can be gained from continually going to the moon? It's a prestige event showing 'look, we've built something that can achieve this'.

The reason why we chose to move onto Mars is because of what we can learn from the experience. What sort of life forms (if any) are there? What sort of rocks are up there? Is there a water source that can be utilised?

Landing on the moon continuously doesn't give us anything. Apart from, we know it's not made of cheese and it's not Neil Kinnock.

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I'm just amazed nobody's been back, surely now the technology all exists it would be relatively straight forward

There must be experiments that could be done up there that would still be groundbreaking

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it would be relatively straight forward

No, that's the thing, it's hard and expensive as **** getting there with humans. Sending tech is one thing, flesh another. It got done once in the biggest "dickswinging contest of all time" and there's no incentive to do it again.

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It's only relatively straightforward at the level of 'If you give something enough thrust, it'll be able to leave the atmosphere and maybe get to the moon'.

It's incredibly difficult. Which is part of the reason it's so expensive still. You have to consider that the Saturn V rocket was, until only fairly recently, considered one of the most complicated machines ever made by man, and was expected to have a fairly high failure rate but still work. And all that had to do was force it's payload into space and towards it's destination, the Moon. We've not built anything else capable of doing that. The Space Shuttle only managed the comparatively close destination of the ISS, really.

And theres nothing you can do on the Moon, really, that you can't do on the ISS. The Moon is just a big dead rock. It may have some resources useful to us in the future but otherwise... getting there isn't worth it. Most experiments you could wish to do on the moon you could also do on the ISS with far less difficulty and danger.

Putting a man on the moon is still one of the greatest achievements any state could do - the fact that so few are even capable of considering it, let alone realistically doing it, is testament to that.

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Fair enough, I think even NASA was running out of stuff to do on the moon in the later missions evidenced by the astronauts just dicking about when they got there ie. playing golf etc.

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Wow a Neil Armstrong tribute thread has morphed into a did he/didnt he conspiracy theory. Only on VT.

Diana was deliberatly killed.

9/11 were an American inside job.

HIV/AIDS was a man made disease to reduce the population of Africa.

Neil Armstrong didnt land on the moon

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Wow a Neil Armstrong tribute thread has morphed into a did he/didnt he conspiracy theory. Only on VT.

Diana was deliberatly killed.

9/11 were an American inside job.

HIV/AIDS was a man made disease to reduce the population of Africa.

Neil Armstrong didnt land on the moon

The whole moon conspiracy thing was done to death and thoroughly debunked in a VT thread back in 2008 but it doesn't seem to exist on the forum anymore.

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