onje_villa Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I think what's often overlooked when people talk about getting in another striker is the type of player. Darren Bent is a decent all-round striker but definitely more of poacher. Carrol, Holt, John Carew, hold up strikers. Do we need just any good striker or do we need a specific type? For my money, we're crying out for a striker that drops deep and links up play and that has that bit of flair needed to unlock defences. Our midfield is actually pretty strong I think, at least in the middle but the gap between them and Bent is a big issue. Is it any coincidence that when we had Robbie Keane on loan last season we looked a much better team for it? I very much hope that if Lambert is looking for a new striker that it's a N° 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 When you are only playing one up front, and not creating chances, I don't think another striker should be the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onje_villa Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 When you are only playing one up front, and not creating chances, I don't think another striker should be the priority. Fair enough but a N° 10 is the type of striker who links up with the midfield and creates chances. If Bent (or any frontline) just stands up top waiting for a cross or a slide-rule pass, the team is not going to create many chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Isn't that what Ireland is meant to be doing though? Until he can be flogged we can't bring in a replacement...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Yeh, we basically need someone in to do what Ireland's supposed to be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 We dont need a striker, we need some creative midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Flog Ireland get Keane back in and buy Carroll -----------Carroll-------------Bent------------- ---------------------Keane--------------------- Goals galore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Isn't that what Ireland is meant to be doing though? Until he can be flogged we can't bring in a replacement...... He's not really got an eye for a goal. If you're playing in the final third then you really need to chip in with goals. The problem is that he can't really play in a central midfield pair either, but if he's on 70K a week you have to at least try and use him. Robbie Keane was more use in his loan spell than Ireland has been in his entire Villa career and we could really do with someone like him at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Should take a punt on Forests Lewis McGugan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Isn't that what Ireland is meant to be doing though? Until he can be flogged we can't bring in a replacement...... He's not really got an eye for a goal. If you're playing in the final third then you really need to chip in with goals. The problem is that he can't really play in a central midfield pair either, but if he's on 70K a week you have to at least try and use him. Robbie Keane was more use in his loan spell than Ireland has been in his entire Villa career and we could really do with someone like him at the moment. Nail and head spring to mind... he cant play on the wing he cant play central midfield and it appears he cant even be effective in his own position of behind the striker.... get rid and get a keane in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousHolteUnion Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 ^ No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJay Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 We really need a technical striker who can hold the ball and provide an aerial threat not easy to find but someone like a Dean Ashton type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Heskey's still available isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onje_villa Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 That's a fair point regarding Ireland. Is an attacking midfielder the same as a deep-lying forward though. I'm not sure. One may run on from midfield while the other will come deep from attack. Bent is the type of striker to get on the end of things. That has to be crosses, through balls or rebounds. Not going to see many crosses playing this narrow so it will have to be following up on long shots or someone making piercing through balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milenko27 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Its not easy being Ireland either in that role, he is a great passer but when he gets into positions where he would like to play those throughballs he often has only one option and it gets very easy for the oppositions defence to stop/read the play. We need to create more runs/options going forward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Keane type player is the second striker we need rather than a big centre forward in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 We basically need a couple of attacking players that can play football and will do it consistently. We need players that will produce, or at least try to, and not just take some nice touches but do **** all with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600rr Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SALIFOU Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ola Toivonen would be quality, he's big and has a physical presence but also is very good on the floor unlike carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I think it would be difficult for any striker at villa especially with the midfield 30 yards away all the time. We need a big target man to hold the ball up and link the midfield. Carroll would be ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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