jon_c Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It's his complete lack of self-respect that gets me. If it came out publicly that I had that sort of attitude at work and showed that sort of application, I'd be absolutely mortified. Let alone bragging myself about it on social media. And if I earned that sort of money I'd just be embarrassed at my effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 hours ago, jon_c said: It's his complete lack of self-respect that gets me. If it came out publicly that I had that sort of attitude at work and showed that sort of application, I'd be absolutely mortified. Let alone bragging myself about it on social media. And if I earned that sort of money I'd just be embarrassed at my effort. Unfortunately there are people like that out there,they are called parasites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 hours ago, jon_c said: It's his complete lack of self-respect that gets me. If it came out publicly that I had that sort of attitude at work and showed that sort of application, I'd be absolutely mortified. Let alone bragging myself about it on social media. And if I earned that sort of money I'd just be embarrassed at my effort. Spot on. You're conscientious. You give a shit about your performance and professional reputation. Part of me thinks that the club created this monster by overlooking him. But you know, he's always been an arse. I don't know how he sleeps at night: I suppose that sack of money acts as a nice pillow. To repeat something I said earlier in this thread: I hope he goes bankrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 What grounds do you need to just sack a player? I mean they have to turn up and stay at training at least, not to be in a breach of contact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, jon_c said: What grounds do you need to just sack a player? I mean they have to turn up and stay at training at least, not to be in a breach of contact? I am sure he does turn up, and put in the least amount of effort to ensure he is fulfilling his contract. Short of criminal offence, it is almost impossible, without serious repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted January 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2016 47 minutes ago, jon_c said: What grounds do you need to just sack a player? I mean they have to turn up and stay at training at least, not to be in a breach of contact? He has been training with the under 21s but is apparently one of the last to arrive and first to leave. He will be doing his contractual obligations though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I will get slated for saying this but there was a time when we could have got some mileage out of Nzogbia, if we had actually ever given him more than 3 consecutive starts in the team. To be fair, he had plenty of runs like that in his first 3 seasons but in his 3rd season in particular he started getting subbed off, not so much for lack of effort in my view as lack of impact. What's the point of having a player on the pitch if he's not influencing the game and working with his teammates? He seemed to develop bad attitude problems in that 3rd season that he has never shaken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 37 minutes ago, briny_ear said: To be fair, he had plenty of runs like that in his first 3 seasons but in his 3rd season in particular he started getting subbed off, not so much for lack of effort in my view as lack of impact. What's the point of having a player on the pitch if he's not influencing the game and working with his teammates? He seemed to develop bad attitude problems in that 3rd season that he has never shaken off. He was rubbish from the start. I saw him put in the most inept performance i have ever witnessed from a professional footballer. Tottenham at home in his first season. He was playing for the manager that signed him, he'd been given a run in the team, but that day he was absolutely awful. Yes it was an awful team performance, but he visibly was not trying. I argue that it does not matter if you're playing for a shit manager in a shit team, if you're a good player you can still.put in a decent performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Maybe if they make him train with the under 12s it might prick his concience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Maybe if they make him train with the under 12s it might prick his concience. To be honest i don't think he would give a crap if he was told to make the tea or be the boot boy, he is picking up £630000 A WEEK! It would take me 3 years to pick his weekly wage up! In effect he is stealing a living! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 he has no interest in his career or he would have transferred, he is just one mistake in a whole catalogue of mistakes that have ended in our demise. Contracts should be written to protects clubs from players like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 This is the problem with footballers wages IMO - N'Zogbia has no incentive to play or better himself. He's made for life, a millionaire several times over and to all intents and purposes sticking to the terms of his contract by turning up to training every day or so. There's nothing the club can do about it. Why should he want to leave the club that paid over the odds for him both in transfer fee and weekly wage. No other sucker is going to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 41 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Maybe if they make him train with the under 12s it might prick his concience. We're way past the 'conscience' point now. N'Zogbia could work incredibly hard training with the U-21's and he still wouldn't get picked, so I'm not surprised he's not bothering to work hard at all. The time for trying was at the start of this season, and again when Garde was first appointed. Seemingly he missed both windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonforRevolution Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 He deserves to get more game time purely for this. Hahahahaha. Top bloke! "Kirsten, 24, a Villa Park season ticket holder, sent an angry tweet to N’Zogbia after being annoyed by a story about him. The French winger, who has been banished to train with the under-21s after falling out of favour, responded with the offer of a free meal." http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-charles-nzogbia-10810694 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 At £25 a piece for a ribeye and pint, Charlie could take 2,800 people out for steak, chips and a pint. I'm guessing that's most of the registered members of VT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 You would at least think that he would want to play football under Garde? Terrible attitude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Worst signing we ever made 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I have to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnStortford Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 8 hours ago, calcifer said: To be honest i don't think he would give a crap if he was told to make the tea or be the boot boy, he is picking up £630000 A WEEK! It would take me 3 years to pick his weekly wage up! In effect he is stealing a living! Somehow I doubt that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Richard said: Worst signing we ever made Pound for pound (fee and wages) don't think anyone could argue with that! The sums must be shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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