penguin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, LondonLax said: The drugs would still be useful to a footballer. The EPO that cyclists were on means you can train harder for more hours and put more conditioning into your body to be ready for match day. That would definitely be a benefit to a footballer. For all we know many clubs might have sophisticated doping programs and all have ben able to cover it up all this time, but my point was that without a shred of evidence it is just lazy to say the current best team each season ‘are on drugs’. People were saying the same thing about Leicester. Is anyone actually saying they are the current best team therefore they are on drugs? A huge part Leicester's and Liverpool's success is clearly their press and how much fitter they seemed than the opponents hence why the drugs possibility has been mentioned, not passing any opinion myself. Never heard theories regarding drugs before these and nothing for a Man City etc when success wasn't based in such a way. Edited January 13, 2020 by penguin Tidied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugzy1991 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Pretty incredible. Fair play to klopp adjusting to the league. A lot less madness pressing in non big games allowing them to carry it out throughout the year in two seasons in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Utterly dominant this year. When we play them again it'll all be about damage control for the full 90 min. Klopp has done a brilliant job with this incredibly talented team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 He’s built a dynasty at Liverpool. Other managers win trophies more than Klopp but he’s improved them year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, PaulC said: He’s built a dynasty at Liverpool. Other managers win trophies more than Klopp but he’s improved them year after year. A dynasty is winning titles every season. Klopp has won zero so far(he will win this one but still not a dynasty) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugzy1991 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 91 points from the last 93 possible. Insane tbh. Unlucky they were up against possibly the greatest PL team last year otherwise they would have gone back to back champions league finalists -> back to back prem titles. Edited January 20, 2020 by Bugzy1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Zatman said: A dynasty is winning titles every season. Klopp has won zero so far(he will win this one but still not a dynasty) Surely a dynasty is when you have several teams / managers delivering titles (e.g. Shankley / Paisley / Fagan / Dalglish or the multiple teams that Ferguson built). Klopp has built a superb team that has no obvious weaknesses. Not as stylistically perfect as Man City, but much more efficient. Age is on their side, so could easily see them winning a few titles in a row, as well as another Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Dynasty is a shite Americanism And my understanding of it is same as Zatmans, he needs to win 3/4 titles over a 5 year period Pep at barca was a dynasty, fergie, wenger etc If klopp wins the league this year and then walks away to take the national team job Liverpool fans and the media elevating him to the dizzying heights of those teams is part of why no one wants them to win the league, another shite Americanism, the Goat nonsense will start, if he stays and sustains it they yeah by all means, but not after the end of this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Yes one champions league followed by a league is not a dynasty. Klopp will have to dominate for a few years to make them a dynasty. I do wonder if the German national team will make a move before long. Low has been on borrowed time for a while now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Would he go to the national team? Surely managing national teams is for older semi retired managers or struggling club team managers. A manager in his prime, at the top of the game, would want the week in week out work of winning titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) low wasn't, neither was klinsmann low has also been there 14 years now, klopp is 52, if the next manager is successful then the chance might be gone I don't think he'd leave Liverpool for Bayern if they came calling but the national team might be too much to say no to, klopp himself will no doubt review the current set up, youth prospects etc and know how much of a risk it is, if there's no potential there then he'll say no Edited January 20, 2020 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Would he go to the national team? Surely managing national teams is for older semi retired managers or struggling club team managers. A manager in his prime, at the top of the game, would want the week in week out work of winning titles. Some managers see managing the national side as the biggest honour they can have, not sure what Klopp's position is on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 20 hours ago, Zatman said: A dynasty is winning titles every season. Klopp has won zero so far(he will win this one but still not a dynasty) He’s built something that is sustainable. Basically took them from a top 6 side to the best team in the world inside 3/4 years? Pep who is regarded as the best, took over a great team and Inproved them but klopp has outdone him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 23 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Some managers see managing the national side as the biggest honour they can have, not sure what Klopp's position is on it though. I know mourinho used to always say he wanted to emulate del bosque who he looked up to - win 3 different leagues, 3 champions leagues with 3 clubs, then the euros and World Cup as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2020 It'll be the biggest title winning margin of all time (in this country anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It'll be the biggest title winning margin of all time (in this country anyway) Be funny if they get beat by one of the relegation candidates (not so much for Villa, just in the wider scope). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Genie said: Be funny if they get beat by one of the relegation candidates (not so much for Villa, just in the wider scope). Be funnier if it was us even better if something fluky like a Nakamba overhit pass or Hourihane smashing it into a beachball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Wolves are one of the few sides that could end their unbeaten run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 21/01/2020 at 20:37, PaulC said: Wolves are one of the few sides that could end their unbeaten run I really hope Wolves win tonight. Feel dirty saying that. I've accepted Liverpool will win the league, and it'll probably be a record points total. Please don't let them be the ultra-invincibles or whatever tag the media give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Really looked as if wolves could do them but Liverpool always find a way to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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