Dr_Pangloss Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 10 hours ago, VillaChris said: Joe Hart aswell if he wants to come back to England. Liverpool or West Ham? Cos Liverpool already have an error prone keeper who lets in a lot of soft goals, they don't need another one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Is Mignolet that bad really? Makes a few mistakes but pulls off great saves as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, PaulC said: Is Mignolet that bad really? Makes a few mistakes but pulls off great saves as well. He is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 22 minutes ago, PaulC said: Is Mignolet that bad really? Makes a few mistakes but pulls off great saves as well. I remember him being at fault for about 5 goals in our 6-1 rout of Sunderland, a few months later Liverpool signed him. He hasn't improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Liverpool or West Ham? Cos Liverpool already have an error prone keeper who lets in a lot of soft goals, they don't need another one. Joe Hart is a great keeper. Man City were bonkers to let him go in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, bobzy said: Joe Hart is a great keeper. Man City were bonkers to let him go in the first place. He's really not a great keeper at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: He's really not a great keeper at all. In what way isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bobzy said: In what way isn't he? Hart lets in a lot of soft goals (like Mignolet) at his near post or shots close to him that he gets a hand to. He also is prone to massive lapses in concentration that leads to him making stupid mistakes. He is very far from a 'great' keeper, great keepers are the Buffon's of this world, not the Joe Hart's. Edited March 6, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: Let's in a lot of soft goals especially at his near post, not very good at claiming crosses and technically flawed - he has this tendency to set his feet wide and bend down low in anticipation of a shot, meaning he gets beat by a lot of high shots because he starts off at too low of a level. He does have his good moments and has good reflexes meaning he makes some good saves from snap shots, headers etc (saves he makes instinctively) but I think he is an extremely flawed keeper and Liverpool need to get rid of him. Are we on about the same keeper? He isn't at Liverpool... ...in any case, I think Hart would comfortably get ahead of most keepers in World football. Definitely went through a spell of conceding soft goals (as has Lloris, De Gea, Courtois...) but overall he's a very good shot stopper and very adept at stopping one on ones. Isn't great at commanding the area (although I think his communication is decent) so not "world class" but definitely a great keeper, for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Are we on about the same keeper? He isn't at Liverpool... ...in any case, I think Hart would comfortably get ahead of most keepers in World football. Definitely went through a spell of conceding soft goals (as has Lloris, De Gea, Courtois...) but overall he's a very good shot stopper and very adept at stopping one on ones. Isn't great at commanding the area (although I think his communication is decent) so not "world class" but definitely a great keeper, for me. No I misread and started talking about Mignolet. Editing my reply to talk about Hart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Hart had a terrible euros so cant call him a great keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 50 minutes ago, PaulC said: Hart had a terrible euros so cant call him a great keeper. Yeah, he did have a terrible Euros (in terms of 2 mistakes), but great keepers do make mistakes. All keepers do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted March 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: He's really not a great keeper at all. Irrespective of the different definitions of 'great' I think Hart is the best established keeper Liverpool could hope to sign this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Irrespective of the different definitions of 'great' I think Hart is the best established keeper Liverpool could hope to sign this summer. Butland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, BOF said: Butland? RU serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just now, Genie said: RU serious? Yeah. I thought he was a good keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just now, BOF said: Yeah. I thought he was a good keeper. He's had a stack of loans in the lower leagues and has been injured for a year Probably not Liverpool calibre at this stage. Joe Hart would be an excellent fit at Liverpool IMO. He makes the odd rick but all keepers do. He'll win them far more points than he'll cost them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted March 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, BOF said: Butland? Bit of a gamble, he hasn't played in over a year since breaking his ankle. I guess the other obvious option is Kasper Schmeichel but I don't think that is likely with the old family tie to United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 26 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Bit of a gamble, he hasn't played in over a year since breaking his ankle. I guess the other obvious option is Kasper Schmeichel but I don't think that is likely with the old family tie to United. I reckon Kasper will replace DdG when he finally goes back to Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 6, 2017 29 minutes ago, Genie said: I reckon Kasper will replace DdG when he finally goes back to Spain. My guess to replace DDG would be Lloris. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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