Stevo985 Posted July 31, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2012 The product placement in Casino Royale was painful. That's true. The one thing that let it down, imo. When they write it into the script, it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Dr. No From Russia With Love A View To a Kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Just don't get the love for Casino Royale, apart from the very beginning and the near end seen its one of the most long winded, boring Bonds ever. For most parts I may as well have been watching Sky Poker interspersed with a couple of random fights. This is absolutely spot on IMO. And even the Parkour sequence at the start had already been done many times by other action films before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Daniel Craig just doesn't do much for me. I know he's supposed to be more like how the true Bond character was written, but he's just so dull. I'd have preferred Rufus Sewell, a much more interesting actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Goldeneye really regenerated bond at the time. It was. Great A view to a kill has the best story but the film didn't do it justice. If they remade that now it would be great. Spy who loved me is a great bond film and a bloody nice car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark8691 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 On Her Majestys Secret Service Goldfinger The Man With The Golden Gun I've probably watched those old Bond films too many times now. Probably bored of all of em now Pretty much retired Bond in my head after Moore retired, and though i've seen one or two of the newer ones; i just dont class them as Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 On Her Majestys Secret Service Goldfinger The Man With The Golden Gun I've probably watched those old Bond films too many times now. Probably bored of all of em now Pretty much retired Bond in my head after Moore retired, and though i've seen one or two of the newer ones; i just dont class them as Bond. One of the two schoolgirl nieces in Man with the Golden Gun, is the old landlady in Kung Fu Hustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 1. Goldeneye - Childhood favourite. :shock: Jesus i'm old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted August 1, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hmmmm, I just don't see him as a true James Bond. The films on their own are probably some of the best ones, but I don't think their filmed in the true style of James Bond. Daniel Craig's Bond isnt nearly enough of a womaniser, nor does he have enough punchlines for my liking. Edit: In short, Daniel Craig isn't Camp enough. So what you're saying is that he is James Bond? (meaning the actual literary character, who generally only had one girl per adventure and was not a wisecracking machine) ((of course, Roger Moore was on the list (behind David Niven, if memory serves) of actors whom Ian Fleming recommended to Broccoli and Saltzman)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted August 1, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2012 I loved Dalton in the Living Daylights. Gritty, cheeky womanizer who fitted with the times perfectly. Then he was majorly let down by the crap writing for License To Kill and then the dispute happened. Gutted he didn't make more. I accept I am probably in the minority here. See my list, below. It's actually uncanny the extent to which Craig's trajectory followed Dalton's: First film: a return to something like the literary Bond after an OTT campfest (indeed, with the exception of From Russia With Love, the Bond films in my top 6 all have that aspect in common!)... TLD is also the closest the Bond producers could come to including Casino Royale's basic plot before they had the rights to it* Second film: too much of a generic action movie plot, not even the dark humor of Fleming, a too-celibate Bond, featuring government corruption and Bond on a vendetta Then MGM running out of money puts the future of the franchise in doubt. Of course, Craig is getting a third film, which Dalton didn't (The Property of a Lady was the working title; since then it's kind of become the standard rumored working-title for the next film)... interestingly enough The Property of a Lady seems to have some plot/location similarities to SkyFall... *: I may still have my fanfic screenplay for a Brosnobond that skated just as close to doing Casino Royale (and included some elements from Fleming's For Your Eyes Only and The Spy Who Loved Me, as well as a couple of nuggets borrowed from the John Gardner continuations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 1. Goldeneye - Childhood favourite. :shock: Jesus i'm old. Haha, I thought the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted August 1, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2012 I'm the absolute arbiter here, because, well, how many of you accumulated a few thousand posts on the alt.fan.james-bond Usenet group? I didn't think so... I don't have a top 3 as such, because I think the top 6 are too close to separate and when I watch any of these it goes to #1 until I watch the next. So chronologically it is: From Russia With Love - Connery's only passably good Bond. Dr. No hinted at what was to come. Goldfinger ruined the series. Thunderball was worse. You Only Live Twice even worse. Diamonds Are Forever is a **** travesty. Connery is bottom of the barrel. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - a masterpiece despite Lazenby's complete lack of talent For Your Eyes Only - what the series needed after Moonraker: a fairly compact plot (something of a 1980s update of FRWL) very well stitched together from a couple of Fleming short stories and an unused scene from his Live and Let Die. The Living Daylights - what the series needed after A View to a Kill: an intricate (it's arguably the hardest to follow: the influence of John Gardner's continuation novels is apparent in the sheer number of double-crosses) plot, toned down comedy, and I'd still call it the best pre-title sequence ("Exercise at Gibraltar") of the series; John Barry's score, his final contribution to the series, is also my pick for best of the series. The integration of orchestra and electronics prefigures David Arnold's tenure, and, well, Barry is the master, Arnold was/is the student. The World Is Not Enough - probably the worst of the 6, thanks to a rather poor third act. Until then, it's amazingly good. Casino Royale - I'll echo the others who have praised it. A dozen years ago I ranked the films on AFJB... I'd still pretty much stand by this list The Living Daylights From Russia With Love On Her Majesty's Secret Service The World Is Not Enough (it was less than a year after it came out...) For Your Eyes Only GoldenEye Goldfinger (has taken a dive in my estimation since then) The Man with the Golden Gun The Spy Who Loved Me (also taken a dive) Octopussy Dr. No (has gone up since then in my estimation) Licence to Kill (likewise) Thunderball You Only Live Twice Live and Let Die (has gone up a bit since then) Diamonds Are Forever Tomorrow Never Dies (has gone up a bit since then) Moonraker A View to a Kill Die Another Day slots in near the bottom Casino Royale near the top Quantum of Solace somewhere in between Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hmmmm, I just don't see him as a true James Bond. The films on their own are probably some of the best ones, but I don't think their filmed in the true style of James Bond. Daniel Craig's Bond isnt nearly enough of a womaniser, nor does he have enough punchlines for my liking. Edit: In short, Daniel Craig isn't Camp enough. So what you're saying is that he is James Bond? (meaning the actual literary character, who generally only had one girl per adventure and was not a wisecracking machine) ((of course, Roger Moore was on the list (behind David Niven, if memory serves) of actors whom Ian Fleming recommended to Broccoli and Saltzman)) Speaking as someone who has never read the books, I'll take your word on that one, but it certainly sounds like it from what people have said in this thread. But would I not be right in saying that most people accept that the James Bond of the movie world and the literary world have always been accepted as noticeably different characters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 1. Goldeneye - Childhood favourite. :shock: Jesus i'm old. Haha, I thought the same thing Not only was it a Childhood (9) favourite, but it was allied with arguably the greatest video game of it's generation. Oh, and her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 ^How I've always wanted to die. Crushed to death mid-coitus twixt Famke Janssen's thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I used to play lego with with brother in the school holidays and we'd always have Bond on in the back ground thanks to dad religiously taping it everytime they were on TV. The ones I seem to remember watching the most were, Live and Let Die, Octopussy and For Your Eyes Only, and I will alays have that childhood memory of them. And the Carry On films strangely enough....... anyway Connery was the best Bond by a mile.... so in order: Ssschean Craig Brosnan Dalton Lazenby Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 1, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2012 1. Goldeneye - Childhood favourite. :shock: Jesus i'm old. You think? I was 41 when that came out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Yeah Goldeneye on the N64 was amazing, loved it.. Could keep me entertained for weeks on end.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 1- Doctor No 2- Goldfinger 3- From Russia With Love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Never seen one. *runs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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