Mantis Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can just see Lerner selling him if it doesn't look like we're get bought by the end of August. Why would he do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Vlaar is underrated on here. Vlaar is overrated on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can just see Lerner selling him if it doesn't look like we're get bought by the end of August. Why would he do that? He's not investing anything more himself, if we're not bought out, we'll probably go down next season and he'll be losing Delph/Vlaar/Agbag for nothing next summer. Why not take £5/6m now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can just see Lerner selling him if it doesn't look like we're get bought by the end of August. Why would he do that? I think Lerner is just stalling on new contracts, I would expect us to renew Vlaar, Delph and Gabby. I think they will be given new deals at the start of theseason if there is no new buyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can just see Lerner selling him if it doesn't look like we're get bought by the end of August. Why would he do that? He's not investing anything more himself, if we're not bought out, we'll probably go down next season and he'll be losing Delph/Vlaar/Agbag for nothing next summer. Why not take £5/6m now? Of course, Lerner is looking to sell a PL club for hundreds of millions of pounds, what better way to ensure our status in the PL and market value, that sell one of our most important players and captain for a few million? Vlaar will be going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. United won't be calling, he is not united quality. Why not invest £25m? There comes a time when you have to cut your losses and cut your cloth accordingly, you can't keep saying "invest another £25m, just another £25m...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can just see Lerner selling him if it doesn't look like we're get bought by the end of August. Why would he do that? He's not investing anything more himself, if we're not bought out, we'll probably go down next season and he'll be losing Delph/Vlaar/Agbag for nothing next summer. Why not take £5/6m now? Because the money we'd get from selling Vlaar now would be nothing compared to the money we'd lose from going down, which selling would make much more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) If we needed to sell someone to bring in say Hoolahan and one other then i'd sell Gabby and keep both Vlaar and Delph. Currently selling Gabby wouldn't be as big a loss as the other two but if Vlaar did leave without an able replacement then we can kiss our Premiership status goodbye next season without the change of ownership. Edited June 2, 2014 by shaggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Well giving Lambert £25m is not a guarantee of staying up. He's had £40m over the past 2 seasons and only just kept us up? Better off sacking Lambert and bringing in proper manager! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Paying off another manager and bringing in another manager with other ideas to embark an another rebuilding job is not the answer IMO. Unless we get a takeover, and money to spend, and then by all means sack him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Well giving Lambert £25m is not a guarantee of staying up. He's had £40m over the past 2 seasons and only just kept us up? Better off sacking Lambert and bringing in proper manager! And which "proper" managers would want to come here with all the uncertainty over the ownership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Well giving Lambert £25m is not a guarantee of staying up. He's had £40m over the past 2 seasons and only just kept us up? Better off sacking Lambert and bringing in proper manager! And which "proper" managers would want to come here with all the uncertainty over the ownership? One's better than Lambert? Plenty! But when the takeover get's sorted any sane new owner will make their first job sacking Lambert! The man embodies all that is wrong about the Lerner years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can just see Lerner selling him if it doesn't look like we're get bought by the end of August.Why would he do that?I think Lerner is just stalling on new contracts, I would expect us to renew Vlaar, Delph and Gabby. I think they will be given new deals at the start of theseason if there is no new buyerI wonder whether Gabby's contract coming into its final year, is part of the reason the others' haven't been renewed yet. Had it just been Vlaar and Delph's contracts, Randy could renew them, knowing that Lambert or any new manager after a takeover, would probably want them to stay. However, Gabby's a player that splits opinion. A new manager (if a takeover happens) might want to get rid of his wages and spend them on someone else. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. United won't be calling, he is not united quality. Why not invest £25m? There comes a time when you have to cut your losses and cut your cloth accordingly, you can't keep saying "invest another £25m, just another £25m...." Randy won't put any of his own money in, and that's fair enough, but apparently we're running at break even as it is, and with the additional TV money it's likely PL's budget will be whatever we've got left over after costs have been covered. That could range from £10-20m without sales, nobody on here has any way of knowing. Randy won't be taking that money and sticking it in his pocket though - he's never done that, and I've never understood the suggestions from some that he was pocketing money. We've got the guy an absolute fortune, not made him anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Well giving Lambert £25m is not a guarantee of staying up. He's had £40m over the past 2 seasons and only just kept us up? Better off sacking Lambert and bringing in proper manager! And which "proper" managers would want to come here with all the uncertainty over the ownership? One's better than Lambert? Plenty! But when the takeover get's sorted any sane new owner will make their first job sacking Lambert! The man embodies all that is wrong about the Lerner years! Any names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Well giving Lambert £25m is not a guarantee of staying up. He's had £40m over the past 2 seasons and only just kept us up? Better off sacking Lambert and bringing in proper manager! For god sake the £40mill argument. It's like nails down a chalkboard. O I forgot he had hutton and Bent, yeah he should have spent it better. Massive massive yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Well giving Lambert £25m is not a guarantee of staying up. He's had £40m over the past 2 seasons and only just kept us up? Better off sacking Lambert and bringing in proper manager! And which "proper" managers would want to come here with all the uncertainty over the ownership? One's better than Lambert? Plenty! But when the takeover get's sorted any sane new owner will make their first job sacking Lambert! The man embodies all that is wrong about the Lerner years! Of course there are many better managers, but which could we realistically get under the current circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Why not give the manager £25m to strengthen the squad? That would certainly give us a better chance of staying in the league. Saving £100m longer term. If a good bid comes in, Vlaar is off. If we reject it, he'll hand in a transfer request and leave, especially if it's Utd calling A lot to be cheerful about now as a Villa fan. Well giving Lambert £25m is not a guarantee of staying up. He's had £40m over the past 2 seasons and only just kept us up? Better off sacking Lambert and bringing in proper manager! And which "proper" managers would want to come here with all the uncertainty over the ownership? One's better than Lambert? Plenty! But when the takeover get's sorted any sane new owner will make their first job sacking Lambert! The man embodies all that is wrong about the Lerner years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Got Costa in his pocket at the moment. Hope he doesn't do an alpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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