samjp26 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We need to get another centre half in January. Concrete Ron has improved immensly this season and despite both Baker and Clark also improving we'll be in trouble if he is out for any length of time. We lost all shape at the back once he went off. There is a chance, a slight one but one nonetheless, that Okore could be back in a month or so. Eh? Says who? Okore himself says his knee feels great now. Of course that is his own opinion and not a doctor's opinion, but if it does feel great and he can start training on it again then I'd assume we could see him back in some capacity by February maybe? It was a bad injury but I know we flew in specialists and even sent him abroad to Italy, so who knows, it would be nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We need to get another centre half in January. Concrete Ron has improved immensly this season and despite both Baker and Clark also improving we'll be in trouble if he is out for any length of time. We lost all shape at the back once he went off. There is a chance, a slight one but one nonetheless, that Okore could be back in a month or so. Eh? Says who? Okore himself says his knee feels great now. Of course that is his own opinion and not a doctor's opinion, but if it does feel great and he can start training on it again then I'd assume we could see him back in some capacity by February maybe? It was a bad injury but I know we flew in specialists and even sent him abroad to Italy, so who knows, it would be nice. I wish. But no chance, those knee injuries take months and months. I think he meant it felt great in a relative sense...for someone rehabbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Okore won't be back this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I've snapped my cruciate ligament twice and there's no chance of seeing him before March at the very earliest. It's a miminum 7 months out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Maybe he just took an arrow to the knee... He'll be alright... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 To directly quote him, he said it looks, feels and is doing great. Those knee injuries do take months, but considering he has had some of the best knee specialists in the world helping him through it, February would mean he'd have been out for 5 to 6 months dependent on the date and I don't think it is unimaginable that he could be back in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 To directly quote him, he said it looks, feels and is doing great. Those knee injuries do take months, but considering he has had some of the best knee specialists in the world helping him through it, February would mean he'd have been out for 5 to 6 months dependent on the date and I don't think it is unimaginable that he could be back in some capacity. I really would not want to rush him back for the sake of it. In Okore we have potentially one of the best defenders we have ever had at Villa, and rushing him back and risking more injuries in the future really isn't worth it. If were going to see him, I hope it would be at the end of the season in the last couple of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Not a chance that we will rush him back and I doubt he will play a major part in anything if he does come back this season, but having him back in some way at least gives us another squad member. Back to the Vlaar argument, I don't think we should buy another defender, with Okore and Vlaar back we'll have 4 CBs already and Clark is doing really well at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Not a chance that we will rush him back and I doubt he will play a major part in anything if he does come back this season, but having him back in some way at least gives us another squad member. Back to the Vlaar argument, I don't think we should buy another defender, with Okore and Vlaar back we'll have 4 CBs already and Clark is doing really well at the minute. I definitely think we should try and bring in a centre back on loan in January just to give us that extra cover in case Baker or Clark were to get injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'd rather give Donacien a chance rather than bring some other team's reject/prospect in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercourse_The_Penguin Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Jeez, guys. I had heart palpitations just now jumping to the last page of this thread to check for any updates on Ron's injury. And what do I see? Talk about out for the season, not rushing these things back... Was a very nervy few minutes before I realised the thread conversation had deviated into talk about Okore and the depth in our centre back contingent as a whole. Really need to see Ron back sooner rather than later. Been such an important player this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Okore? I think at best he'll be fit by the time Villa are safe (should be pretty early) and can acclimate in a relatively pressure free environment. Torn ACLs aren't something that take five or even six months, people can start running straight and stuff by then, but it takes a while longer to be able to cut consistently and with confidence. I've heard people talk about how it feels like their knee will give out every time they do a cut while rehabbing it. It's pretty tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 If you buy a player with a injury record, it is likely however good they are, they will get injured again. See also Laursen, Martin. I just hope its a little knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 We wouldn't have conceded either of those goals if Vlaar had been on the pitch. He was a rock 1st half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) might be worth trying to get Kenneth Omeruo from chelsea on loan for rest of season if Ron out for a while,He is desperate to play football and is a starter for nigeria even though he aint played a game for chelsea he is a 20-year-old defender played in this year's Africa Cup of Nations final, marked Luis Suarez at the Confederations Cup and is almost guaranteed to start for his country at next year's World Cup in Brazil. Quote from player "I haven't really spoken to manager Jose Mourinho about it but I just have to give my best in training and hope that he recognises it," he said. "For now I just want to focus and see if I get a chance to play for Chelsea and then when it comes to January I'll see what the options are". Edited December 5, 2013 by walesavfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 To directly quote him, he said it looks, feels and is doing great. It'll take the guy 2 months of training minimum to get back to even half resembling fit. Feeling great doesn't mean feeling anywhere near ready for professional footbal. I think you've read way waaaay too much into that comment It's like when someone is getting over a great attack and they're feeling a lot better and they say "I feel great". They don't mean they're approaching peak physical fitness, they mean that theyre feeling a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 We need to get another centre half in January. Concrete Ron has improved immensly this season and despite both Baker and Clark also improving we'll be in trouble if he is out for any length of time. We lost all shape at the back once he went off. There is a chance, a slight one but one nonetheless, that Okore could be back in a month or so. Not possible at all. We'll see him back in March if he comes back early. But I think we'll take our time with him and will probably not see him back until end of April or May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 If we lose Vlaar for an extended period of time, we are really in trouble. I don't like a centerback pairing of Baker and Clark despite how well Clark has been playing. Baker is either injured, getting carded, or playing well. With Okore already out, I don't want to see us have to resort to Herd again. I'd rather see Lowton at center back before that. We really don't have a viable replacement for Vlaar which is scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) might be worth trying to get Kenneth Omeruo from chelsea on loan for rest of season if Ron out for a while,He is desperate to play football and is a starter for nigeria even though he aint played a game for chelsea he is a 20-year-old defender played in this year's Africa Cup of Nations final, marked Luis Suarez at the Confederations Cup and is almost guaranteed to start for his country at next year's World Cup in Brazil. Quote from player "I haven't really spoken to manager Jose Mourinho about it but I just have to give my best in training and hope that he recognises it," he said. "For now I just want to focus and see if I get a chance to play for Chelsea and then when it comes to January I'll see what the options are". Again: Donacien. There is nothing to gain from taking other teams youngsters for back-up when we have our own coming from a very respected academy. Donacien had a good pre-season with the first team and I wouldn't have any problem with him coming in, in fact I fully expect him to be called up if Vlaar's injury is going to keep him out for a couple of weeks. As for Okore, okay, maybe not a month but I do think he'll be training with the team again soon and I do hope we'll be seeing his face around the team in February. Edited December 5, 2013 by samjp26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No point rushing Okore back, it's not like he had properly settled into our first team anyway; was still getting to know the players around him and adjusting to the Premiership, so I don't actually see any point at all in playing him this season. Let him fully recover with a bit of preseason behind him and we'll see him next season. I haven't seen Donacien. If he;s good enough then I'd rather we give ours a chance than help Chelsea develop one of theirs, but with Baker and Clark already prone to huge errors, I'd rather we bought a bit of experience in January. 31-32 year old with good experience who can read the game and add a bit of solidity and experience in Vlaar's absense, but not gonna break the bank. No idea who, I just think, if money's tight, that's where the cover should be, I don't think we need another promising youngster at the back when we already have 2 learning their trade, 3 if you bring in Lowton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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