Con Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 And is much, much, better on crosses this season helping us to concede less from set plays. I found myself agreeing with you, then checked the stats for aerial duels This season: 55% successful Last season: 63% successful Why are we better at set pieces? Partial explanation may be Clark has improved +2% from 61%-63%. However, like Vlaar, Baker has dropped: from 63%-56%. Maybe we have just been lucky, or have a more effective system? Do we defend zonal or man-mark at corners? Like Lambert and Gary Neville say, stats are for supporters and the media, they actually mean naff all. They say that partly because if they meant something jobs in punditry would open up to non-footballers. Partly because they don't say everything - but people who understand stats don't claim they do. On the other hand, Neville is a hypocrite because he uses stats all the time on MNF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Yeah didn't think Ron was that great in the air against high balls last season so great to see him and Clark have improved in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 And is much, much, better on crosses this season helping us to concede less from set plays. I found myself agreeing with you, then checked the stats for aerial duels This season: 55% successful Last season: 63% successful Why are we better at set pieces? Partial explanation may be Clark has improved +2% from 61%-63%. However, like Vlaar, Baker has dropped: from 63%-56%. Maybe we have just been lucky, or have a more effective system? Do we defend zonal or man-mark at corners? Like Lambert and Gary Neville say, stats are for supporters and the media, they actually mean naff all. They say that partly because if they meant something jobs in punditry would open up to non-footballers. Partly because they don't say everything - but people who understand stats don't claim they do. On the other hand, Neville is a hypocrite because he uses stats all the time on MNF. Erm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 4, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Really hope he's not out for long. We fell apart for awhile back there without him. On his way to become a great CB. Edited December 4, 2013 by AVTuco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We were poor aerially without him. Calf-injury apparently so he shouldn't be too long out but then wasn't it supposedly a calf-injury when he had that long absence last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Please be just a minor twinge and half time precaution. We looked unbeatable at the back until he went off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Really hope he's not out for long. We fell apart for awhile back there without him. On his way to become a great CB. Yes Lowton looked really vunerable. I dont think we would have conceded those two goals with Vlaar on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 4, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2013 Really hope he's not out for long. We fell apart for awhile back there without him. On his way to become a great CB. Yes Lowton looked really vunerable. I dont think we would have conceded those two goals with Vlaar on the pitch. Agree, we shouldn't play with three CB's if Vlaar is out. Formation needs to, and likely will, change for next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We were poor aerially without him. Calf-injury apparently so he shouldn't be too long out but then wasn't it supposedly a calf-injury when he had that long absence last season? Pretty sure it was a calf last December. Hopefully weve nipped it in the bud - and he won't be out to long. It was just like season watching us defend after he had gone off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwan Posted December 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2013 Please be okay. Please be okay. Please be okay. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Not what we need with Man. United on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Not what we need with Man. United on the horizon. Man United?? Not really that difficult, they are a mid table team aren't they? Hopefully Vlaar isn't out for too long, he is one of the main reasons why we have improved so much defensively this season. Hoping the defence doesn't go to shit while he is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 He tweeted that he hopes it isn't too bad, fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 It feels like our time to beat Man. United at Villa Park but I wouldn't fancy Baker and Clark over 90 minutes to hold things together against Rooney and probably a returning RVP. Think we'll be o.k in the other games but really Ron is the glue that holds things together at the back so it's a concern if it's anything like last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Has been our joint best player this season alongside Delph...really really hoping it is very minor and not like last season's injury. Our defense crumbled when he was out last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We need to get another centre half in January. Concrete Ron has improved immensly this season and despite both Baker and Clark also improving we'll be in trouble if he is out for any length of time. We lost all shape at the back once he went off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 It feels like our time to beat Man. United at Villa Park but I wouldn't fancy Baker and Clark over 90 minutes to hold things together against Rooney and probably a returning RVP. Think we'll be o.k in the other games but really Ron is the glue that holds things together at the back so it's a concern if it's anything like last season. I think both Baker and Clark (especially Clark!) are much improved this season, but sticking Lowton in there at CB definitely messed us up today. If Vlaar's out for any extended period we need to go back to 4 at the back. I feel certain we would not have conceded both of those goals with Ron out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We need to get another centre half in January. Concrete Ron has improved immensly this season and despite both Baker and Clark also improving we'll be in trouble if he is out for any length of time. We lost all shape at the back once he went off. There is a chance, a slight one but one nonetheless, that Okore could be back in a month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 PLEASE BE FIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 4, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2013 We need to get another centre half in January. Concrete Ron has improved immensly this season and despite both Baker and Clark also improving we'll be in trouble if he is out for any length of time. We lost all shape at the back once he went off. There is a chance, a slight one but one nonetheless, that Okore could be back in a month or so. Eh? Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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