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Obama needs to do something in his second term with regards gun laws. It's not 200 years ago, its time to change and now is the time for it. Every year somebody goes on a killing rampage in the US. It's horrifying

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Obama needs to do something in his second term with regards gun laws. It's not 200 years ago, its time to change and now is the time for it. Every year somebody goes on a killing rampage in the US. It's horrifying

Personally I think they can do what they want with their country and live with the consequences. If they don't want to give people health care and hand everyone guns instead then they can go right ahead, it's nothing to do with us.

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Obama needs to do something in his second term with regards gun laws. It's not 200 years ago, its time to change and now is the time for it. Every year somebody goes on a killing rampage in the US. It's horrifying

What would he change though? I read a stat earlier that 80% of all gun crime in the US is carried out with a gun procured illegally. The only thing Obama could do now is ban guns completely but that won't stop criminals using them, all it will do is make innocent people criminals for wanting to defend themselves.

The US is nothing like the UK or other European countries where the number of guns in circulation is that low you can ban them. In the US there are more guns than people. No matter what Obama tries to do it will not work as criminals are above the law, they do not adhere to it and as such making guns illegal would do nothing.

Imagine the US now where criminals have guns but the innocent also have guns and the right to defend themselves. Now imagine the US where the criminals have guns but the innocent don't because it's illegal to own one, talk about handing the keys to the city to the bad guys. Like I said the US gun system is like no other country, there is little Obama can do. All the individual states can do is to beef up security, but even that has to be done in moderation.

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Why were there kids at a night time screening of a Batman film?

I'd imagine it's one or more of the following

a) Mammy and Daddy couldn't get a babysitter

B) Kid wanted to see the film (it is Batman afterall)

c) The cinema was allowing kids in

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Why were there kids at a night time screening of a Batman film?

I'd imagine it's one or more of the following

a) Mammy and Daddy couldn't get a babysitter

B) Kid wanted to see the film (it is Batman afterall)

c) The cinema was allowing kids in

There were pisctures of the police leading kids out of the cinema dressed in the full batman costumes etc

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Obama needs to do something in his second term with regards gun laws. It's not 200 years ago, its time to change and now is the time for it. Every year somebody goes on a killing rampage in the US. It's horrifying

I agree.

BUT these kind of events seems to not correlate with guns laws, as this list from Reuters show:

From Reuters:

March 13, 1996 - BRITAIN - Gunman Thomas Hamilton burst into a primary school in the Scottish town of Dunblane and shot dead 16 children and their teacher before killing himself.

April 28, 1996 - AUSTRALIA - Martin Bryant unleashed modern Australia's worst mass murder when he shot dead 35 people at the Port Arthur tourist site in the southern state of Tasmania.

April 1999 - UNITED STATES - Two heavily-armed teenagers went on a rampage at Columbine High School in Littleton, Denver, shooting 13 students and staff before taking their own lives.

July 1999 - UNITED STATES - A gunman killed nine people at two brokerages in Atlanta, after apparently killing his wife and two children. He committed suicide five hours later.

June 2001 - NEPAL - Eight members of the Nepalese Royal family were killed in a palace massacre by Crown Prince Dipendra who later turned a gun on himself and died few days later. His youngest brother also died later raising the death toll to 10.

April 26, 2002 - GERMANY - In Erfurt, eastern Germany, 19-year-old Robert Steinhauser opened fire after saying he was not going to take a math test. He killed 12 teachers, a secretary, two pupils and a policeman at the Gutenberg Gymnasium, before killing himself.

Oct. 2002 - UNITED STATES - John Muhammad and Lee Malvo killed 10 people in sniper-style shooting deaths that terrorized the Washington, D.C., area.

April 16, 2007 - USA - Virginia Tech, a university in Blacksburg, Virginia, became the site of the deadliest rampage in U.S. history when a gunman killed 32 people and himself.

Nov. 7, 2007 - FINLAND - Pekka-Eric Auvinen killed six fellow students, the school nurse, the principal and himself with a handgun at the Jokela High School near Helsinki.

Sept. 23, 2008 - FINLAND - Student Matti Saari opened fire in a vocational school in Kauhajoki in northwest Finland, killing nine other students and one male staff member before killing himself.

March 11, 2009 - GERMANY - A 17-year-old gunman dressed in combat gear killed nine students and three teachers at a school near Stuttgart. He also killed one other person at a nearby clinic. He was later killed in a shoot-out with police. Two additional passers-by were killed and two policemen seriously injured, bringing the death toll to 16 including the gunman.

June 2, 2010 - BRITAIN - Gunman Derrick Bird opened fire on people in towns across the rural county of Cumbria. Twelve people were killed and 11 injured. Bird also killed himself.

April 9, 2011 - NETHERLANDS - Tristan van der Vlis opened fire in the Ridderhof mall in Alphen aan den Rijn, south of Amsterdam, killing six before turning the gun on himself.

July 22, 2011 - NORWAY - Police seize a gunman who killed 69 people at a youth summer camp of Norway's ruling political party, on the small, holiday island of Utoeya. Anders Behring Breivik is later charged with the killings, as well as with an earlier bombing in Oslo which killed eight people. The trial ended last month with Breivik saying that his bombing and shooting rampage was necessary to defend the country - prompting a walk-out by relatives of his victims.

Dec. 13, 2011 - BELGIUM - Gunman Nordine Armani killed three people, including a 17-month-old toddler, wounding 121 in a central square in the eastern city of Liege, before shooting himself. The next day Belgian investigators found the body of a woman in warehouse used by the gunman raising the death toll, including the killer, to five.

July 20, 2012 - UNITED STATES - A masked gunman killed 14 people and wounded 50 others when he opened fire on moviegoers at a showing of new Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" in the city of Denver.

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Why were there kids at a night time screening of a Batman film?

Madness.

What's the problem here? Are you connecting what happened to some sort of culpability on the parent's side for bringing them to the cinema for a night screening? As if it should be a consideration that children should not attend the cinema after a certain time because the threat of massacre increases.

It should have been huge novelty to go to see the new batman film the minute it is released, past their bedtime. Such a shame that the mentally unstable have such great access to firearms over there. Regardless of the guy himself who was most likely severely disturbed, the blame must lie with those in charge of how he acquired his arsenal. The supposedly mentally competent.

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Problems with proposed US gun control:

(1) Unless both parties agreed to it, it would probably be political suicide for the one that tried to bring it in.

(2) Even if they did, it would probably be unenforceable in practice.

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