Dr_Pangloss Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I seriously doubt it'll be a landslide at all, but I do expect Obama to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Didn't watch the debate, but Romney has always been more articulate than McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 with the recent exception of Bush Snr , most defending Presidents seem to have increased their vote numbers second time around George W even increased his by 12 million :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 George W even increased his by 12 million Yeah, god* knows how he did it. * Maybe He did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I hope they end up with Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I hope they end up with Romney. Gee, thanks :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I hope they end up with Romney. :? Wouldn't be good for anyone, including the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark8691 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Obama was disappointing. But talk is cheap, and Romney just pulls fairy tales out of his arse as he goes along. Obama has to debate using facts and reality. Rmoney just spouts anything that sounds good for the audience on the day. A Used car salesman could be president, given half the population out here. So easily suckered Americans, and the ignorant ones do deserve Rmoney. It's not about what a man says, it's what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 with the recent exception of Bush Snr , most defending Presidents seem to have increased their vote numbers second time around George W even increased his by 12 million :shock: Wasn't that a decrease of 84m across the country, outweighed by an increase of 96m in Florida, courtesy of brother Jeb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 with the recent exception of Bush Snr , most defending Presidents seem to have increased their vote numbers second time around George W even increased his by 12 million :shock: Wasn't that a decrease of 84m across the country, outweighed by an increase of 96m in Florida, courtesy of brother Jeb? :-) The only real surprise with Jeb having Bush blood in him is he didn't cast the votes for Kerry by mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 It's not about what a man says, it's what he does. I do not like Romney and can hardly listen to him speak, but I would say Obama is no better than him regarding that comment. He promised a heck of a lot before elected and now blames a lot of his failures on bipartisanship. Bipartisanship has been around for ages and is nothing new, so if you are going to use that as an excuse, then you can bore right off. Both of these candidates are very unappealing and at this point I still do not think I will vote in the election. If I vote I want it to be because I support a candidate, not just because I dislike one less than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Just read an interesting piece online , it's rather long but the short of it appears to be that he has achieved more than people seem to realise .... In short, when judging Obama’s record so far, conservatives measure him against their fears, liberals against their hopes, and the rest of us against our pocketbooks. But if you measure Obama against other presidents—arguably the more relevant yardstick—a couple of things come to light. Speaking again in terms of sheer tonnage, Obama has gotten more done than any president since LBJ. But the effects of some of those achievements have yet to be felt by most Americans, often by design. Here, too, Obama is in good historical company. Full Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 My word that article is long, I will have to give it a read though, seems rather interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Just read an interesting piece online , it's rather long but the short of it appears to be that he has achieved more than people seem to realise .... This (doesn't mean I agree with everything he's done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted October 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2012 Just read an interesting piece online , it's rather long but the short of it appears to be that he has achieved more than people seem to realise .... In short, when judging Obama’s record so far, conservatives measure him against their fears, liberals against their hopes, and the rest of us against our pocketbooks. But if you measure Obama against other presidents—arguably the more relevant yardstick—a couple of things come to light. Speaking again in terms of sheer tonnage, Obama has gotten more done than any president since LBJ. But the effects of some of those achievements have yet to be felt by most Americans, often by design. Here, too, Obama is in good historical company. Full Article Doesn't seem the most objective piece I've ever read but then you read the comments and realise that by comparison, it is a work of literary genius. Scary old place that America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2012 Comments on online news pieces always have their share of moronic replies. Those are no worse than many of the British ones. My personal favourite is the Bradford Telegraph and Argus, a paper that thrives on bad news. Today's most read stories: Bradford cocaine gang is jailed for more than 40 years City centre incident: Man arrested after alleged assault on female Community Support Officer Incident in Bradford city centre Rats in cellar cost Bradford restaurant £15,000 Brothers charged with 11 terrorism offences Bateman signs new Bradford Bulls deal Crime suspects must stay away from Bradford estate Police hunt man who sexually assaulted Baildon woman Westfield 'must lodge new plans over Broadway Debenhams store' Police hunt suspected cabbie who raped Baildon woman These are all too recent to have comments yet, but when they do, they'll be doozies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Comments on online news pieces always have their share of moronic replies. Those are no worse than many of the British ones. My personal favourite is the Bradford Telegraph and Argus, a paper that thrives on bad news. Today's most read stories: Bradford cocaine gang is jailed for more than 40 years City centre incident: Man arrested after alleged assault on female Community Support Officer Incident in Bradford city centre Rats in cellar cost Bradford restaurant £15,000 Brothers charged with 11 terrorism offences Bateman signs new Bradford Bulls deal Crime suspects must stay away from Bradford estate Police hunt man who sexually assaulted Baildon woman Westfield 'must lodge new plans over Broadway Debenhams store' Police hunt suspected cabbie who raped Baildon woman These are all too recent to have comments yet, but when they do, they'll be doozies. Reminds me of a lot of Singaporean online forums actually, particularly the more political ones, and even some of the comments in the opinion section of the print version of the newspaper as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 6, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 6, 2012 The semi-local newspaper comment threads are often a hoot. Example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hmmm. Go to Google Images, type "completely wrong" and see what comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hmmm. Go to Google Images, type "completely wrong" and see what comes up. Hmmm. Go to Google Images, type "completely wrong" and see what comes up. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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