Mazrim Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Properly utilised and supported, Carroll would score shitloads of goals for us. Alongside Bent. If he's available on loan with a view to a permanent move we should go all out to make it happen. Liverpool massively overpaid for him but he's worth a lot more than £6m. Also, it could be a case of getting Carroll out of a mess rather than Liverpool. Nice theory But pretty sure Bent would end up banging them in for the scousers - while once again a big lumbering villa centre forward is laughed at. Really hope this doesn't happen. We're not selling Bent, they are looking to get rid of Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 No doubt Carroll is a threat and would add loads to our team - him and Bent could be lethal. Depends on his wages really. PL seems to be bringing in all these early signings on very low wages so if he can shift some of the dead wood maybe theres room for someone like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Carroll would score shitloads of goals for us? Carroll has never scored shitloads and he never, ever will score many during a season. He is not made for it. He is tall and strong, thus a good winner of headers due to his aggressive style. However, he is seldom at the right place at the right time, he is slow and easy to pick up in the area, he has mediocre finishing skills and never seem to sustain his form (if and when on a streak). He has a good moment at Newcastle ans scored some goals, but we see very clearly at Liverpool (who create lots of chances to be fair) that he is not a goalscorer of any sorts. He has a decent shot in him, he can bang them in from distance on volley as we have seen a few times - but that is about it and it happens 2 times every season at best. 35 games for Liverpool last season and 4 goals. Even Shola Ameobi and Emile Heskey would do better than that in a Liverpool-kit I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd be all for Carroll tbh. I really rate him as a player...and anyone who makes John Terry look like an arsehole is a bit of a hero in my view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 He was interviewed as he left Bodymoor Heath and I remember thinking "He doesnt want to go". He was nearly in tears, that doesnt happen if you are trying to manipulate your way out of a club. I remember seeing that and thinking 'he's got that look of guilty shame' He was one of those rare footballers that was supposed to be down to earth, old school and not in it for the money Yet, once Man City showed him their silk knickers he couldn't wait to jump ship and nibble on em He's no different to Downing. I would've said Barry/Young but both of those at least put in some time before leaving us Milner wanted out, Milner got out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 10, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd be all for Carroll tbh. I really rate him as a player...and anyone who makes John Terry look like an arsehole is a bit of a hero in my view! I agree Wigster! I think Carroll could do a great job for us. He has been played wrong at Liverpool... a manager such as Lambert could really get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Carroll would score shitloads of goals for us? Carroll has never scored shitloads and he never, ever will score many during a season. He is not made for it. He is tall and strong, thus a good winner of headers due to his aggressive style. However, he is seldom at the right place at the right time, he is slow and easy to pick up in the area, he has mediocre finishing skills and never seem to sustain his form (if and when on a streak). He has a good moment at Newcastle ans scored some goals, but we see very clearly at Liverpool (who create lots of chances to be fair) that he is not a goalscorer of any sorts. He has a decent shot in him, he can bang them in from distance on volley as we have seen a few times - but that is about it and it happens 2 times every season at best. 35 games for Liverpool last season and 4 goals. Even Shola Ameobi and Emile Heskey would do better than that in a Liverpool-kit I am sure. Agree - Carroll would score shitloads for us ? seems to be based on nothing. Hes a very limited player - this move would be disastrous for us. Money could be better spent elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd be all for Carroll tbh. I really rate him as a player...and anyone who makes John Terry look like an arsehole is a bit of a hero in my view!Does that mean you'd be Ok with Anton Ferdinand and Wayne Bridge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2012 I personally think it would be hilarious to take Carroll off their hadns just as he's hitting some form. If we got him at a knock down price and he ended up banging them in for us it owuld make Liverpool look even more stupid. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be interested. he'd cost too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 If it was out of Bent or Carroll, I would go for Bent every time.. He is guaranteed goals.. And PL has already said he is a vital part of the team and does not want to sell him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Remember Lambert got Grant Holt scoring lots @ norwich.... 15 last season 20 odd the season before... yes Holt is a little more mobile than Carroll but I think we could get a return of around 12 goals for Carroll and maybe 15-20 for Bent.... add in Gabbys total with the midfield chipping in... we would be in a good position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 After paying 35m for him, the very least Liverpool would want to recoup would be 20m And the sticking point there is he's not shown he's worth 10m nevermind 20m So, it's obviously a non starter Someone said Carroll wins everything in the air. Must be a different one to the one i've watched last season and this summer. He was useless in the Euros bar that goal which came off the side of his head by mistake I'd have done a straight swap for Heskey. But that's about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammy Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Don't fancy Carroll here myself. The less of a temptation there is to hoof the ball up the pitch the better in my opinion. If we are getting another striker in I'd like someone who can play more as a number 10 besides/behind Bent. A young version of Robbie Keane would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 AC Milan are reportedly interested in bringing Carroll in on loan. Their fans are not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Evans Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 57 mill for downing, Milner & Young. I think we got he better deal. Perhaps. But the money didn't compensate us for the fact that all the optimism and momentum of the previous couple of years was sucked out of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Already knew that we were expecting more signings, but its nice to hear it come from the manager.. http://tinyurl.com/c92zkqa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammy Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Also what happens if he comes here on loan? Plays crap - waste of wages Plays well - Liverpool want to keep him / ask for massive fee we can't afford, back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I'd be all for Carroll tbh. I really rate him as a player...and anyone who makes John Terry look like an arsehole is a bit of a hero in my view!Does that mean you'd be Ok with Anton Ferdinand and Wayne Bridge ? I dont rate them as players, but they go up in my estimation for making Terry look like an arsehole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2012 Someone said Carroll wins everything in the air. Must be a different one to the one i've watched last season and this summer. He was useless in the Euros bar that goal which came off the side of his head by mistake This wins the "VillaTalk most inaccurate post of the week" Award. Congratulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 If we are getting another striker in I'd like someone who can play more as a number 10 besides/behind Bent. A young version of Robbie Keane would be ideal. BANG ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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