chappy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Not singling you out KSV but this is more of a response to many posts on here... We don't know that Kiyotake would improve us at all, if he signed he could be a flop. I sort of hope he doesn't join us because the expectation on the poor lad to be some sort of messi Ronaldo hybrid wouldn't be very fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villan_007 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He has improved a little but is still lacking. The fact that our side misses him just speaks volumes of how shit our midfield really is. All midfielders.. aside from Delph SHOULD be back up/squad rotation players. Westwood KEA will be good for rotation but should not be first choice. We really need to sign a defensive midfielder/box to box and an attacking/creative midfielder. Dembele and Kiyotake along with Delph and you would see a different side. Obviously we cannot afford them but these style of players are what we need. Players who are comfortable on the ball and do not panic. Can win a few tackles.. win some headers and add some steel to the side. Our current midfield is not physical and just get overrun. I dont know how much money we have to spend on wages and transfers but we need better players. Sylla had the physical side but he offered little else. Happy to see KEA stay next season but needs to be here as a squad player and not in the starting 11. Just letting you know you've just described Westwood. I feel so strongly about westwoods ability that anyone who doesn't think he should start in our side, even with new signings has been found out as knowing sweat FA about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He has improved a little but is still lacking. The fact that our side misses him just speaks volumes of how shit our midfield really is. All midfielders.. aside from Delph SHOULD be back up/squad rotation players. Westwood KEA will be good for rotation but should not be first choice. We really need to sign a defensive midfielder/box to box and an attacking/creative midfielder. Dembele and Kiyotake along with Delph and you would see a different side. Obviously we cannot afford them but these style of players are what we need. Players who are comfortable on the ball and do not panic. Can win a few tackles.. win some headers and add some steel to the side. Our current midfield is not physical and just get overrun. I dont know how much money we have to spend on wages and transfers but we need better players. Sylla had the physical side but he offered little else. Happy to see KEA stay next season but needs to be here as a squad player and not in the starting 11. Just letting you know you've just described Westwood. I feel so strongly about westwoods ability that anyone who doesn't think he should start in our side, even with new signings has been found out as knowing sweat FA about football. He doesnt get a stranglehold on the game. His tackling is weak and he wins nothing in the air. Hardly the player i mentioned. He breaks up play a little bit but you dont see him pressing and winning the ball with a strong challenge. He may keep the ball but he passes it back and does not use the ball to get forward and set up play. Hes a limited player. Just because i do not agree with you doesnt mean i dont know football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Not singling you out KSV but this is more of a response to many posts on here... We don't know that Kiyotake would improve us at all, if he signed he could be a flop. I sort of hope he doesn't join us because the expectation on the poor lad to be some sort of messi Ronaldo hybrid wouldn't be very fair! I agree. I just using him as an example of the type of player we need. Not necessarily him. Should have said Belhanda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He has improved a little but is still lacking. The fact that our side misses him just speaks volumes of how shit our midfield really is. All midfielders.. aside from Delph SHOULD be back up/squad rotation players. Westwood KEA will be good for rotation but should not be first choice. We really need to sign a defensive midfielder/box to box and an attacking/creative midfielder. Dembele and Kiyotake along with Delph and you would see a different side. Obviously we cannot afford them but these style of players are what we need. Players who are comfortable on the ball and do not panic. Can win a few tackles.. win some headers and add some steel to the side. Our current midfield is not physical and just get overrun. I dont know how much money we have to spend on wages and transfers but we need better players. Sylla had the physical side but he offered little else. Happy to see KEA stay next season but needs to be here as a squad player and not in the starting 11. Just letting you know you've just described Westwood. I feel so strongly about westwoods ability that anyone who doesn't think he should start in our side, even with new signings has been found out as knowing sweat FA about football. He doesnt get a stranglehold on the game. His tackling is weak and he wins nothing in the air. Hardly the player i mentioned. He breaks up play a little bit but you dont see him pressing and winning the ball with a strong challenge. He may keep the ball but he passes it back and does not use the ball to get forward and set up play. Hes a limited player. Just because i do not agree with you doesnt mean i dont know football Yeah I know, I'm just saying how highly I rate him KEA though when he plays we get points! looking forward to having him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He has improved a little but is still lacking. The fact that our side misses him just speaks volumes of how shit our midfield really is. All midfielders.. aside from Delph SHOULD be back up/squad rotation players. Westwood KEA will be good for rotation but should not be first choice. We really need to sign a defensive midfielder/box to box and an attacking/creative midfielder. Dembele and Kiyotake along with Delph and you would see a different side. Obviously we cannot afford them but these style of players are what we need. Players who are comfortable on the ball and do not panic. Can win a few tackles.. win some headers and add some steel to the side. Our current midfield is not physical and just get overrun. I dont know how much money we have to spend on wages and transfers but we need better players. Sylla had the physical side but he offered little else. Happy to see KEA stay next season but needs to be here as a squad player and not in the starting 11. Just letting you know you've just described Westwood. I feel so strongly about westwoods ability that anyone who doesn't think he should start in our side, even with new signings has been found out as knowing sweat FA about football. He doesnt get a stranglehold on the game. His tackling is weak and he wins nothing in the air. Hardly the player i mentioned. He breaks up play a little bit but you dont see him pressing and winning the ball with a strong challenge. He may keep the ball but he passes it back and does not use the ball to get forward and set up play. Hes a limited player. Just because i do not agree with you doesnt mean i dont know football Yeah I know, I'm just saying how highly I rate him KEA though when he plays we get points! looking forward to having him back. I rate him as well but i think we need to get an even better player. Thats the only way to improve our side. Otherwise Delph and Westwood would be dominating sides and carving sides up. I just feel we need a Viera style midfielder along with a more creative player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I like the player, one of those who looks like he isn't doing much, but is actually one of our most active players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Us really missing El Ahmadi speaks volumes about just how much he contributes to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 El Ahmadi is really important to what Villa do when we're playing well. By pressing so high up the pitch he allows us to pinch the ball in positions where a team with no real creativity can make something happen. I think it's that, and not the "good counter-attacking team" myth, that makes (or rather made) us dangerous away and against the top teams. Without that role we tend to struggle, everything we do on the ball starts further back and we don't have the quality to create enough chances in those situations. I think he's good at it in his own right, but it's probably also true that there are better players that are probably available even within our budget. The creative attacking midfielder might cost £10m minimum, but a hard-working, all-action pressing midfielder likely wouldn't. Personally I'd be looking to cover his injuries rather than replace him, at least for next season. I like the cut of his jib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 That says absolutely everything. If you don't rate him, then you genuinely need to learn more about the game - it's that simple. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 That says absolutely everything. If you don't rate him, then you genuinely need to learn more about the game - it's that simple. Or it tells us that the rest of the squad assembled by Lambert are very poor. But of course you know the game hence your strong defence and support of such an awful team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mantis Posted April 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2014 Why is it seemingly impossible for some people to praise (if you can even call it that) a Villa player without bashing the rest of the Villa team? Same happened with Vlaar - he wasn't that good they said, the players round him just made him look good. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samjp26 Posted April 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2014 Can't we just give a player a pat on the back for playing well? Does it have to be that is only seemingly excelling due to the the rest of our team being poor? There are games where KEA has made more tackles and interceptions than anybody else on the pitch, let alone just our own players. Was that due to, for example, Chelsea being poor or due to KEA playing well? Or how about KEA being 8th in the table of 'tackles per game', out of the entire league. Higher than Tioté, Fernandinho, Arteta, Gerrard or Barry. Is KEA a better player than any of those? No, I personally don't think so, but it clearly shows that he has his strengths and he does something important in the middle of the pitch. I haven't always been his biggest fan, but he has improved this season and he is a key component within our midfield. That has nothing to do with anybody else being poor either. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 His decent performances are down to him and he deserves credit for them. The shocking state of our team without him shows how poor the squad is. It doesn't take anything away from KEA but at the same time it doesn't show he's our Ronaldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He's improved a lot on last year, but I rarely watch a game of ours and come out thinking that any of the midfielders have had a particularly convincing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I've said it before KEA presses very well high up the pitch, if the rest of team follow suit we play well. However, if for some reason the rest of the team don't follow suit, Kea is made to look like a headless chicken running about on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) His decent performances are down to him and he deserves credit for them. The shocking state of our team without him shows how poor the squad is. It doesn't take anything away from KEA but at the same time it doesn't show he's our Ronaldo. Nobody said or implied that anyway. This is what I mean about the black and white thinking that pervades this forum - just because people are praising a player doesn't mean they think he's world class or anything, Edited April 11, 2014 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 That says absolutely everything. If you don't rate him, then you genuinely need to learn more about the game - it's that simple. Or it tells us that the rest of the squad assembled by Lambert are very poor. But of course you know the game hence your strong defence and support of such an awful team. So you don't support the team then? I defend the players when they are being unfairly criticised; I've condemned plenty of performances too because I try to be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I often have to wonder if some of these people are actually Villa fans, or just people who are frustrated in life and see this as an opportunity to sling pointless, often unwarranted abuse at people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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