TRO Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 There is far too much sentiment that has manifested itself over recents years at VP and it has got in the way of success.Time for change and a ruthless streak to be brought in. Best of luck Kevin, Thanks for your loyalty. Right, now for business....I'm right behind you Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2012 If he goes to small heath we can have some fun with the 'Agent MacDonald' jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Folk need to stop getting hysterical,KMac did a tremendous job with the youth/Reserve Team,at First team level he was never going to be part of PL plans as he will bring in his own staff. Its all well and good having an all-conquering Youth / Reserve team, but whats the point if they dont produce very good First Team players? Forgive my ignorance, but who have we actually brought through from grass roots that makes McDonald's work so fantastic? Well if you had the privilege of watching Shaw, Little, Gidman, Deehan, Cowans...it may be a question well asked. I believe too many of us have wallowed in mediocrity for too long and accolades have been dished out when they have not been called for....Loyalty is one thing and a virtue in itself , but success will not be achieved in blind faith.....This club has needed a ruthless streak to come in for some years...I think we may be getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 A terrific servant to this club. I wish him the best wherever he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercs23 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Wasnt it only rumoured this morning that laursen could be coming to us as a coach. Maybe reserve coach? Like ogs did at man u. You never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Don't be naive folks He's been pushed more than likely "...more than likely" You haven't a clue either way and claim people are being naive... You really do spout a constant stream of rubbish. i`m with you Mike, sometimes i think some treads should be named the CI drivel thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieB Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I wondered if he's gone to be Steve Clarke's assistant at West Brom? Wish him all the best wherever he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoughboroughLion Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Didn't KMac make it clear he wanted to be considered as the new manager? If so, that's why he has probably decided to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 i`m with you Mike, sometimes i think some treads should be named the CI drivel thread How about The Clueless Idiotic Drivel Thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 There is far too much sentiment that has manifested itself over recents years at VP and it has got in the way of success.Time for change and a ruthless streak to be brought in. . exactly.... KMac has been a superb servant to us and deserves all the praise... but im not gonna get my knickers in a twist about it.... this club needs change at every single level and obviously "hunger" and "vibrancy" is perhaps being installed everywhere.... there has probably been lots of discussions between the staff over the past few days about the future of the club and how we want to progress... KMac obviously decided he didn't really fit into it... Good luck fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted June 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2012 All the best - Agent MacDonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 New Small Heath manager? That would hurt. Why? He won't be a success with them. Which is one of the reasons I hope he does not move into management, i do not want him ridiculed. He's a good youth coach/manager but poor with seniors. They may enjoy working with him, that does not mean he is the right man to work with them. England players for what it was worth loved working with McLaren. Look how that turned out? But, MacDonald deserves a lot of praise and respect for the work he has put in for us, which has been for more than half of my life! I hope he finds a good coaching job somewhere and is a success with it. Looking forward to us bringing in a coach who can work on technical skills with players and get them working on ball to feet etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Unless it's to the scum then I wish KMac every success, he has been a true Villan. I wouldn't be surprised if PL asked him to go as he had expressed interest in the managers position, possibly PL didn't want anything to undermine his approach. Not that I'm saying he would of been anything other than professional but the new manager probably wants his own men in place. Thanks KMac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 9, 2012 Moderator Share Posted June 9, 2012 Folk need to stop getting hysterical,KMac did a tremendous job with the youth/Reserve Team,at First team level he was never going to be part of PL plans as he will bring in his own staff. Its all well and good having an all-conquering Youth / Reserve team, but whats the point if they dont produce very good First Team players? Forgive my ignorance, but who have we actually brought through from grass roots that makes McDonald's work so fantastic? Dean Sturridge :-) What on earth are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Don't be naive folks He's been pushed more than likely Are you on a wind up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Mat Kendrick @MatKendrick I'm led to believe the decision behind Kevin MacDonald's exit from #avfc was kind of 'mutual', although quite how mutual, I'm not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Mcdonald was a good reserve team manager and did well with the yoot. I wish him the best, but this is hardly a big deal. Sometimes people made him out to be some genius who was solely responsible for bringing through waves of young talent. But this won`t stop some going off the deep end with a conspiracy theory, even though we don`t know why he has left. Good luck to him wherever he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 New Small Heath manager? That would hurt. Why? Look, it hurt when Barry, Milner, Downing and Young left, so to see a "Villa man" in the shape of MacDonald, a guy who was loved at the club, and had been a fantastic servant to Aston Villa for seventeen years and who obviously has an affection for the club, go to SHA, a club where no-one there is fit to lace his shoes, would hurt a lot. Also, I want him to be a success wherever he goes next, he deserves it, so to want him to go there and fail is an insult to the man. Now (calm down TRS-T) I'm not for one second saying I want SHA to succeed, but I think it would be highly unlikely for him to go there and I really, really hope he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Whilst I respect your view, I don't agree with it. I don't think he has what it takes to be manager of any team above the lower levels (league 1/2) so I think he would fail at the blose, which would see him receive a lot of hatred, something he does not deserve. Yes, he does care about Villa, yes its in his heart - but that does not make him right for the direction we want to go in. For years now, we have struggled to get teams playing good football, we lack composure and technical ability.. now, whilst this is not something KM is fully responsible for, it has become worse since he has had a more senior role. Finally, whilst he is not right for us, I believe he has outgrown his own role and would do a grand job as a coach elsewhere, with a team who need the experience he can bring to the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 I understand where you're coming from but on the other hand I think you're doing the man a gross injustice. I think most clubs would like to have someone like Kevin MacDonald working with their (especially young) players. I think it's extremely harsh to suggest that our failures in the last few years have anything to do with MacDonald, that performance on the opening day a few years ago at VP when we destroyed West Ham 3-0 was one of the the best attacking displays I've seen by a Villa side since Big Ron's days. Okay, we lost the next league game 6-0 at Newcastle which ultimately was the end of his senior management career at Villa, but to associate him with the dross served up by McLeish and to a lesser extent Houllier is extremely harsh and unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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