DeepDish Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Holt only signed a new 3 year deal last July and scored 17 goals last season, so we're in a position to put whatever price on his head we want. West Ham have apparently bid £4.5 m for him yesterday, think if they push that up to £6m we might consider it, not a bad deal for someone who cost us £400k, 3 years ago and is 32 early next year. And suppose the player doesn't want to go to Wet Spam but prefers a bigger club? Well yu are welcome to him for about £6m though the rumour is that Lambert wont be able to approach any of our players for 12 months( same as swansea have with Rodgers) If that is true, there will be no bidding war on Holt and West Ham will probably get him for an improved second offer at 5 mill. Sounds like a bad business to make sure Lambert does not approach any of your players. Not sure I want Holt at Villa Park, btw. But I will back the manager whatever he do this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieB Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Well yu are welcome to him for about £6m though the rumour is that Lambert wont be able to approach any of our players for 12 months( same as swansea have with Rodgers) However there are also rumours that so far Lambert has refused to agree to any such clauses being written into any severance agreement, he's so angry with Norwich after agreeing to allow him to speak to Villa last week and then withdrawing that permission. Hence why the heated discussion took place on Wednesday night and Lambert tendered his resignation. Whether he wants to sign players from Norwich we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 No thanks, would rather continue with Darren Bent and Andi Weinmann. Owen in on a pay as you play deal would also be a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I remember another time we were all unsure & moaning about signing an ageing centre forward in his 30's... He went on to score the winner in a European cup final I wouldn't mind him here actually & trust PL's judgement..If he wants him he should know his abilities more than anybody so get him in! I remember a more recent example, Emile Heskey. We can all post examples of players to support either side of such an discussion point but they they are of no real significance to evaluating the value of any signing. Some signings are good others aren't and that applies whatever the age. Where age becomes important is when signings don't work out and large amounts of money are concerned. Given our current issue with wages and the limited amount we have to spend paying out larelge sums for players not far off 32 to me seems like bad business regardless of their ability. the only piece of important criteria is.....can they score goals on a regular basis. Grant Holt can score goals. But Hey we should now have a manager we can trust with this kinda stuff, so we can just relax and back him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 exactly.... send bannan and the fonz packing for a combined 5m coz they are shite... Holt in for the same amount... twice as potent and nothing spent Really? Think we'd do well to get £3M for the pair personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I remember another time we were all unsure & moaning about signing an ageing centre forward in his 30's... He went on to score the winner in a European cup final I wouldn't mind him here actually & trust PL's judgement..If he wants him he should know his abilities more than anybody so get him in! I remember a more recent example, Emile Heskey. We can all post examples of players to support either side of such an discussion point but they they are of no real significance to evaluating the value of any signing. Some signings are good others aren't and that applies whatever the age. Where age becomes important is when signings don't work out and large amounts of money are concerned. Given our current issue with wages and the limited amount we have to spend paying out larelge sums for players not far off 32 to me seems like bad business regardless of their ability. Who says we have limited amount of funds? Everything I have heard recently is that there is plenty of money to spend (as there always has been once the wages are addressed). That said, whatever the situation - Id sleep if we didnt get Grant Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieB Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 the only piece of important criteria is.....can they score goals on a regular basis. Grant Holt can score goals 70 goals for Norwich at all levels... including 17 at Premier League level (2 in cups) 2nd highest goalscorer behind Rooney in the league last season with 15 goals. Naaaah wouldn't want him at the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The "no resale value" is a hugely over-rated argument. Norwich (or any other club) will try and get as much as they can for a player they're selling. If Holt had resale value (say £3m worth), we should be willing to spend about £3m more to get him. So the price would go up by about £3m. As for signing him or not, for that sort of money I'd rather Robbie Keane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 the only piece of important criteria is.....can they score goals on a regular basis. Grant Holt can score goals 70 goals for Norwich at all levels... including 17 at Premier League level (2 in cups) 2nd highest goalscorer behind Rooney in the league last season with 15 goals. Naaaah wouldn't want him at the club... second highest' British goalscorer', which is akin to be being the second most handsome man in st andrews . still would improve our squad without question . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 the only piece of important criteria is.....can they score goals on a regular basis. Grant Holt can score goals 70 goals for Norwich at all levels... including 17 at Premier League level (2 in cups) 2nd highest goalscorer behind Rooney in the league last season with 15 goals. Naaaah wouldn't want him at the club... 2nd highest? If you only count English players that is... http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/top-goalscorers.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Can anyone tell me what the only piece of important criteria is please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 the only piece of important criteria is.....can they score goals on a regular basis. Grant Holt can score goals. Heskey was never prolific. But Hey we should now have a manager we can trust with this kinda stuff, so we can just relax and back him. You can say that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Can anyone tell me what the only piece of important criteria is please. Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 No thanks, not the type of striker we need. We're missing the deeper lying playmaking striker, someone who can hold the ball and release it to Bent/Weimann. Berbatov is leaving Man U, has anyone picked him up? Realistic shout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 They may want to stop him going back for players and unsettling them and ou can understand that. But I think that if a player actually submits a transfer request and puts themselves on the open market so to speak then they are fair game and you can't stop him bidding then. I wouldn't be surprised if both villa and paul think this as well and that if naaarrrrich ar trying to say it applies in all cases it's another reason to be pissed off with their small time behaviour. Just saying like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I cannot see in a million years Lerner agreeing a 3 year deal for someone like Holt (after all that's why he's supposed to have put in a transfer request) after the cost-cutting exercise we've had to go through. It would be totally counterintuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I cannot see in a million years Lerner agreeing a 3 year deal for someone like Holt (after all that's why he's supposed to have put in a transfer request) after the cost-cutting exercise we've had to go through. It would be totally counterintuitive. Well the wages would be no where near what Heskey was being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 What is the fee ? £3-5m ? For a 30 something year old ? No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Grant Holt is bollocks. The white Michael Ricketts and he will sink without a trace next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 What is the fee ? £3-5m ? For a 30 something year old ? No thanks What would you say to Robbie Keane for £4m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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