GasGasGas Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Discounting the fact that we let Friedel go for free and picked up Given for 3m or so was it, who is the better keeper in your opinion based on ability alone? So did we actually improve in the goalkeeping department in this season in terms of the personnel? Although factoring in the price could mean a different story altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 We signed Friedel for £2.5 million, he was a good all round keeper but not very good coming off his line at corners. Given for £3 million better at shot stopping than Friedel but also worse than Friedel at coming off his line. They're the same in ability I think, Friedel less likely to make a mistake, Given more likely to pull off an amazing save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 No difference really. With a good defense in front of them they'd look even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Bit dumb getting shot of Brad really and then shelling out massive wages on a more injury prone keeper Both top top pros though IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Bit dumb getting shot of Brad really and then shelling out massive wages on a more injury prone keeper Both top top pros though IMHO Friedel wanted a 2 year contract, we only were willing to offer a 1 year contract, sensible from the club really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Brad for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Bit dumb getting shot of Brad really and then shelling out massive wages on a more injury prone keeper Both top top pros though IMHO Friedel wanted a 2 year contract, we only were willing to offer a 1 year contract, sensible from the club really. How is it sensible ? By letting him go we had to shell 3.5m fee for SG + woo him with a 5 year contract worth 12.5m so all in all 16m instead of Giving BF a 2 year extension Madness & Incompetence of titanic proportions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasGasGas Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 Bit dumb getting shot of Brad really and then shelling out massive wages on a more injury prone keeper Both top top pros though IMHO Friedel wanted a 2 year contract, we only were willing to offer a 1 year contract, sensible from the club really. How is it sensible ? By letting him go we had to shell 3.5m fee for SG + woo him with a 5 year contract worth 12.5m so all in all 16m instead of Giving BF a 2 year extension Madness & Incompetence of titanic proportions Given (not the player!) the past dealings we've done and especially in terms of recent changes to managers I'm not the least bit surprised. Tottenham are the biggest winners for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillinvillan Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Two world class keepers imho regardless of how you look at it and happy with both of them but I'd say Given just about pips it but not by much, shame he never had Laursen in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Friedel is better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Bit dumb getting shot of Brad really and then shelling out massive wages on a more injury prone keeper Both top top pros though IMHO Friedel wanted a 2 year contract, we only were willing to offer a 1 year contract, sensible from the club really. How is it sensible ? By letting him go we had to shell 3.5m fee for SG + woo him with a 5 year contract worth 12.5m so all in all 16m instead of Giving BF a 2 year extension Madness & Incompetence of titanic proportions Then sign who when Friedel's two years are up? We're paying £16m for 5 years of a world class keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Shay & Brad are the only two world class players we have had for a long time, scandalous how they ended up here really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 That £16m should have been used on other areas of the team Then again "the other guy" would have probably signed Kieran Dyer and Titus Bramble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Both still good keepers. From 10, I'd mark Given as a 9 and Friedel as an 8.5. If we're comparing the two keepers at this time and perhaps wonder why we passed on keeping Friedel, it's important to remember that Shay is 5 years younger than Brad. In 3 years time it's likely that Given will still be playing well. The same can't be said of Friedel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 2 top class goalkeepers and would be unfair to compare them especially as they are very similar. World class shot stoppers that can win you points and both weak at crosses. wouldnt be wrong to say without Given we would be in the Championship, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 wouldnt be wrong to say without Given we would be in the Championship, It's difficult to actually prove that, but I suspect you are correct. Given is definitely better than the 'average' Premier League keeper and looking at some of the vital saves he made last season, I don't think most keepers would have made all of them. Given's save from Warnock's own-goal effort, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Given and Friedel were never "world class", good PL keepers but far from the worlds best keepers. Swapping Brad for Given is like for like but the money spent on Given is just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Brad is by far a better all round keeper than Given IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Given and Friedel were never "world class", good PL keepers but far from the worlds best keepers. Swapping Brad for Given is like for like but the money spent on Given is just silly. It's not 'like for like' though, is it? Shay is 5 years younger than Friedel. When mentioning the money spent of Given please remember that continuing to employ 41 year old Friedel wouldn't exactly be free! Part of Friedel's ability is his consistency, but then again Given is hardly inconsistent. Where I think Given out classes Friedel is on outstanding saves; the kind of saves that last season prevented a draw becoming a loss. With a better manager and some player investment/improvements it would be great to see Given's vital saves giving wins instead of draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Given by miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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