withes_shin Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Who at Aston Villa FC is making the decision on which players to let go at the end of their contracts? For the past two close seasons we have not had a manager in charge at the club but still players at the end of their contracts are let go, what if the new manager coming in wanted these players? I mean this year Heskey, Cueller, Guzan have gone - ok if McLeish didn't want them but maybe the new man might (only Cueller in all honesty). Last season (off the top of my head) out went Friedel and Reo-Coker. I know they are earning (questionable after last season that it is actually earned) high wages and the club want to reduce this outlay, and that the contracts have expired, etc. but surely it is best to wait until the new man is in place and decide if he wants any of these players then try to re-negotiate a new contract. Anyway - over and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Randy - considering he's the one who's splashing the cash on these guys wages. Probably with the advice of other backroom staff/coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 surely it is best to wait until the new man is in place and decide if he wants any of these players then try to re-negotiate a new contract. Possibly, but it's a quick win for the board in terms of cost-cutting as (in the absence of a manager) there's nobody to object to their departures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Not sure, although Im guessing its a collective decision. A lot of them had to go Beye,heskey.. To bad Warnock,collins and dunne contract arn't up...Maybe they are still worth something, surely Big sam will want that type of CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 It's barely even a decision - the choice is offer them a new contract or don't offer them a new contract. As we don't have a manager we're hardly going to restrict their options with the squad by offering new terms to players he might not want. Plus the players themselves won't want to sign new contract if they don't know who the manager is and whether he wants them (unless they don't care about playing and just want the money, in which case all the more reason not to offer them a contract!) If new manager really wants any of these players, he can try to re-sign them, as it's unlikely any of them will get a new club instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 It's barely even a decision - the choice is offer them a new contract or don't offer them a new contract. As we don't have a manager we're hardly going to restrict their options with the squad by offering new terms to players he might not want. Plus the players themselves won't want to sign new contract if they don't know who the manager is and whether he wants them (unless they don't care about playing and just want the money, in which case all the more reason not to offer them a contract!) If new manager really wants any of these players, he can try to re-sign them, as it's unlikely any of them will get a new club instantly. Yep, this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Maybe Randy consulted Alex Ferguson on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 24, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2012 Players leaving when their contract is up is a lack of a decision if anything. To offer them a new contract with no manager here would be the thing you'd want to complain about. Any decision about these players' contracts would have been made months ago. It's not Randy's (direct) decision to let them go now while there isn't a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Not at all? Paul Faulkner is involved in the transfers along with the manager therefore if we don't have a manager its up to the board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 This is why we need a manager in place for more than a season. Player ins and outs can be planned. When we keep changing manager like this the board has to sort this type of thing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Ummm...Alex McLeish? The usual time to think about their contract renewal would be when there is a year left, so that would be last summer. Presumably Big 'Eck took a look at them last summer and decided against negotiating a renewed or extended contract with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatbarrier Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Just wondering whether anyone's made any "decisions" about pre-season friendlies yet? Any tours planned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Remember Aurelio was let go from Liverpool by Benitez, then re-signed not long afterwards when Hodgson took charge. So being let go doesn't always mean being let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 surely it is best to wait until the new man is in place and decide if he wants any of these players then try to re-negotiate a new contract. Possibly, but it's a quick win for the board in terms of cost-cutting as (in the absence of a manager) there's nobody to object to their departures. There is no manager to object....but there is a bunch of investors called season ticket holders who are watching the clubs expolits with interest and making their plans accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Just wondering whether anyone's made any "decisions" about pre-season friendlies yet? Any tours planned? They've been decided for ages :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Just wondering whether anyone's made any "decisions" about pre-season friendlies yet? Any tours planned? They've been decided for ages :shock:Again, presumably that was 'Eck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 26, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2012 Who at Aston Villa FC is making the decision on which players to let go at the end of their contracts? For the past two close seasons we have not had a manager in charge at the club but still players at the end of their contracts are let go, what if the new manager coming in wanted these players?...surely it is best to wait until the new man is in place and decide if he wants any of these players then try to re-negotiate a new contract... The decisions aren't made at the end of the season. The decisions are made before January, and often with 1 or 2 years left on a players contract - "do we want to re-sign this player for another 3 or 4 years or do we want to sell him now (with a year or two left, when his value is towards it's peak) or do we want to keep him, but let his contract just run down". I think at Villa it's been a case in the past couple of years or so, of the board and manager knowing that the overall wage bill is too high, so higher salary players either need to be sold, let go at the end of their deals, or if they're seen as crucial, kept. Not many of the high earners at the club would be seen by anyone as "crucial" - not like say Barry or Milner or Young were, and with them, they wanted to go, so realistically there's only so much the club could do. Players leaving this summer, other than Carlos, who I think we'd have been better keeping, but it was clearly decided a year or so ago to let him go, well the rest, Heskey etc. - their time is long gone at VP, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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