NIVillan Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 He was good last season but I have to wonder whether our vulnerability from set pieces is partly down to him? I know we were bad the season before but we seemed even worse last season. ^^ This Given just doesnt seem to command/organise a defense like he should. Brilliant Shot Stopper but not a top quality Keeper who is in charge of the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Its hard to tell how good a keeper is when your near the bottom of the league. They can sometimes appear better than they are due to the amount of saves they have to make each game. Its then hard to establish whether they are saves any keeper should make or outstanding saves due to the quality of the GK. For me a good keeper is so much more than just a shot stopper and I have to agree with others that Given only seems to be very good at shot stopping. The rest of his abilities as a keeper are debatable. I personally feel we should have given Friedal the 2 years he wanted. Looked very assured for Spurs last year. I'm glad for him he was able to play for a quality team before he retired though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Given had another shocker yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Why didn't McLeish poach Butland when he came ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Why didn't McLeish poach Butland when he came ?? Cause he was 18 and we needed a First Team Keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I meant why didn't he bring him for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I say we start Siegrist as our number one next season, he can't be any worse than Given has shown in the last three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I meant why didn't he bring him for the future I appreciate Butland is meant to be an excellent prospect for the future but isn't Siegrist (sp) supposed to be an equally exciting prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I meant why didn't he bring him for the future Because he knew he would be sacked at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I say we start Siegrist as our number one next season, he can't be any worse than Given has shown in the last three games. NOT SURE IF SRS!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah I think Siegrist is a good talent.. just bring him through instead of wasting money on a new GK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Why didn't McLeish poach Butland when he came ?? Who's Butland and why are you asking questions as if we know Mcleish personally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I say we start Siegrist as our number one next season, he can't be any worse than Given has shown in the last three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcohen Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Given is still a great keeper n my book, a gew average games for ireland does not chnage 12 phenominal season. I think he can be our number 1 for at least 3 more season, if we can keep him that is. If he does go to QPR, I would go for Green myself. Siegrest is good, seen him in a few reserve games, but he is not ready for the prem and to be honest it would be embaressing to think he is! We are better than that, c'mon! Just becasue peopel are young, peopel always say to play them! Expect them to be amaizng, then thee are not and we say ship them off. Does my head in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 We must avoid the Jim Leighton scenario, where ManUre held onto him for 6 months too long Lambert needs to make some bold decisions here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If we do sell Given , probably for around £3m-£4m, then we could sign Craig Gordon as he's a good keeper who is also a free agent. I think if you looked up the term 'injury prone' in a dictionary the definition would be Craig Gordon. We had a lucky escape a few years ago when he chose Sunderland over us and they spunked up around £8m to sign him. It could have been another MON bargain signing. Added to that when fit I think he has looked distinctly average. As a few have said a new GK is not our area of priority. If we could get a decent defence in front of Given he would look a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaib2004 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 We only need a back up. Keep Given get a decent back up in and see if Siegrest progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah craig gordon would be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Guzan still a free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caw2510 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 get guzan and kirkland in given out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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