TRO Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 He has scored 67 goals in 274 appearances 31 of those appearances as a sub. A goal every 4 games whilst not great is not that bad especially when you think how many games he has played out wide. He is rightly starting at the moment for me. We look far more threatening with him in the side than out of it. I will grant you that Mark, but he simply goes through too many games without scoring imo some will say thats ok, I don't think it is for what he's being paid. Aston Villa will never progress whilst those sort of stats are accepted. However, he is not amongst our prime problem players, but for the reputation he has in some quarters he needs to justify it by "doing what it says on the tin" Just remember Mark a goal every 4 games in the prem is 9/10 some midfielders score that... he is a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Would have preffered to have kept Daniel Sturridge. not after last night, he was diabolical and then did an embarrassing celebration when handed a goal. wouldnt take him for the celebration alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 someone wrote on here that Gabby has scored more goals for Villa than David Platt....that maybe so 59 v 61 in favour of Gabby What he/she failed to say was Gabby took 7 seasons Platty took 3. Haha! Who said that nonsense!? Add to that: Platt was a **** midfielder. We have never had a player score so many goals from midfield since, and we're not likely to see his likes again for a long time. Strikers like Gabby, however, are two a penny. Comparing him to Gabby is absolute bollocks. The only difference is loyalty...but that counts for shit when Gabby is on easy street and has nowhere to realistically go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houllierout Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Just like to show my goalscoring table:http://www.tinyurl.com/avfcstrike Shows he a good Vassell replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 He was still our most potent attacking threat last season, if you look at goals + assists combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Make O'Neill aware that Gabby is available in January and then use the revenue plus whatever Lerner makes available in January to buy a CB, LB, CM and winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Make O'Neill aware that Gabby is available in January and then use the revenue plus whatever Lerner makes available in January to buy a CB, LB, CM and winger. What about a striker replacement for Gabby? If Benteke or Bent (if still here) become injured were **** up front surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 What about a striker replacement for Gabby? If Benteke or Bent (if still here) become injured were **** up front surely? Not if we play 1 up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Make O'Neill aware that Gabby is available in January and then use the revenue plus whatever Lerner makes available in January to buy a CB, LB, CM and winger. You want to sell last seasons most potent attacking threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 He has scored 67 goals in 274 appearances 31 of those appearances as a sub. A goal every 4 games whilst not great is not that bad especially when you think how many games he has played out wide. He is rightly starting at the moment for me. We look far more threatening with him in the side than out of it. That isn't impressive stats for a striker to be honest. Don't think he will ever reach the heights people expect him to on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 You want to sell last seasons most potent attacking threat? I like that people go to this without mentioning he had only one more G+A in 11 more games than Bent. Potent might not be the word you were looking for. I do not think advanced metrics have made it to the world of football yet, but when they do you will realize how inefficient an offensive player Gabby is. That being said, I like the way he is playing now. Several of our goals have come from him backing a defender down, holding him off the receive the ball from midfield, and the distributing the ball well with his back to goal. Now if he could just hit the ball well with his front to goal, we might have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I like that people go to this without mentioning he had only one more G+A in 11 more games than Bent. Potent might not be the word you were looking for. I do not think advanced metrics have made it to the world of football yet, but when they do you will realize how inefficient an offensive player Gabby is. That being said, I like the way he is playing now. Several of our goals have come from him backing a defender down, holding him off the receive the ball from midfield, and the distributing the ball well with his back to goal. Now if he could just hit the ball well with his front to goal, we might have something. I think he would be last seasons second most potent attacking threat if you go by ratio. He assisted one of Bent's goals as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 He was still our most potent attacking threat last season, if you look at goals + assists combined. While I cant argue with the stat (although I havent actually looked into it), this does not really excuse him from criticism/potential sale. Last year was appauling - and Gabby being the most potent striker (with Bent injured for a lot of it) is the very least I would expect. That does not hide the fact that at times, the lad has joined other senior players at times in 'taking the piss' and quite frankly - being a disgrace, if the rumours of turning up late/not supporting managers are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 While I cant argue with the stat (although I havent actually looked into it), this does not really excuse him from criticism/potential sale. Last year was appauling - and Gabby being the most potent striker (with Bent injured for a lot of it) is the very least I would expect. That does not hide the fact that at times, the lad has joined other senior players at times in 'taking the piss' and quite frankly - being a disgrace, if the rumours of turning up late/not supporting managers are true. Well 'most potent striker' isn't quite true, he was the most potent attacking force of all the attacking players in the squad. I don't listen to rumours, he did the job of scoring/creating goals better than anyone else in the squad and that's the bottom line. Top assists, second most goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Well 'most potent striker' isn't quite true, he was the most potent attacking force of all the attacking players in the squad. I don't listen to rumours, he did the job of scoring/creating goals better than anyone else in the squad and that's the bottom line. Top assists, second most goals. Bazdavies, Was the performance of any senior player incl Gabby Agbonlahor good enough last year? Could he have done more? Would it be that hard to find a replacement who could deliver what Gabby does and more? Its a shame because I would actually love him to prove his potential. Every so often we see that hes capable of top notch performances. Needs to step it up and do it a lot lot more frequent for me - but Weve been saying that for 2 or 3 years now. Take your point regarding rumours, but I think it was clear over the last 2 years that at times, Gabby was one of many (in fairness) who were half arsed. Unforgiveable on them wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Last season everybody was shit and should have done better. But at least Gabby had a brief purple patch of scoring and creating which helped us stay up and put him on top of the pile of shit. A weak link that should be sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Last season everybody was shit and should have done better. But at least Gabby had a brief purple patch of scoring and creating which helped us stay up and put him on top of the pile of shit. A weak link that should be sold? Not should be sold no. Just by no means a certain keeper. Like I said, vast improvement needed for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 To be fair Gabby has never really set the world on fire in the last few years and some of the ratios branded around are not that fancy reading. For a premier league striker at such a big club it is pretty piss poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Not should be sold no. Just by no means a certain keeper. Like I said, vast improvement needed for me. I think it's quite evident everybody needs to up their game from last season, but Gabby was at least the best of a bad bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I think it's quite evident everybody needs to up their game from last season, but Gabby was at least the best of a bad bunch. What, last season? Apart from a good short patch he was dire, particularly when Bent and Petrov were out near the end and we needed someone to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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