Michael118 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 9 hours ago, villa89 said: How could anyone be confident of that? There's absolutely no evidence to support that opinion and plenty of contrary evidence. If players like Cameron Jerome can score 16 and Glen Murray can score 23 in this division then Agbonalahor is capable of scoring 20 easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dave J said: On what basis do you think he is capable of scoring 20 goals a season - he is not a natural goal scorer so regardless of the division he plays in will struggle to find the back of the net imo - I think his best yield was 15 some years back - not exactly statistics that inspire - would you say? That was in the Premier League though. He has spent a lot of time playing as a winger and wide forward for us as well. If you compare his stats with Cameron Jerome who scored 16 this season - Jerome's best return in the Premier League was 11 back in 09/10. The same season Gabby scored 13. Edited May 22, 2017 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 It's about time we dicked a team 85-0. Like all of the predictions being made elsewhere on this site. If we could just beat a team once, 85-0, Gabby would have a great chance of scoring twenty. Nailed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael118 said: That was in the Premier League though. He has spent a lot of time playing as a winger and wide forward for us as well. If you compare his stats with Cameron Jerome who scored 16 this season - Jerome's best return in the Premier League was 11 back in 09/10. The same season Gabby scored 13. Cameron Jerome is not a yardstick that I would choose to use to support any debate on goal scoring- in my view if your not a natural goal scorer - your not a natural goal scorer and I don't think Gabby is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) sIn his hey day 10/13 goal a season man. But that is a long time gone. Jerome is about the same age but stills scores goals so is now better than Gabby. Edited May 22, 2017 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 3 hours ago, PaulC said: sIn his hey day 10/13 goal a season man. But that is a long time gone. Jerome is about the same age but stills scores goals so is now better than Gabby. The statistics speak for themselves, but God, when you word it like that it really hits home. A sorry state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 11 hours ago, Michael118 said: If players like Cameron Jerome can score 16 and Glen Murray can score 23 in this division then Agbonalahor is capable of scoring 20 easily. How you can rate Agbonlahor alongside Glenn Murray is one step beyond me - with the very greatest of respect to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Gabby made 13 appearances this season and scored 1 goal in the championship. Kozak (who is universally derided by some) in his first season in English football scored 4 goals in 14 against arguably better defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Just now, Supervillan78 said: Gabby made 13 appearances this season and scored 1 goal in the championship. Kozak (who is universally derided by some) in his first season in English football scored 4 goals in 14 against arguably better defences. Arguably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Arguably? Well, when you say it like that... its clearly not. lol Interestingly Gabby also got 4 goals that season...from 31. (although Kozak actually made 15 appearences) The point is that Gabby is (sadly) incapable of scoring 20 goals in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 19 hours ago, skarroki said: No one player has scored 20 goals in a season under either Pulis or Allardyce in their entire careers as managers throughout English football. How deluded do you have to be to think Agbonlahor would be the man to change that??? sure in his peak 10 years ago Gabby never got near 20 league goals a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 46 minutes ago, Supervillan78 said: Well, when you say it like that... its clearly not. lol Interestingly Gabby also got 4 goals that season...from 31. (although Kozak actually made 15 appearences) The point is that Gabby is (sadly) incapable of scoring 20 goals in a season. Yep!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I'd be flabbergasted if Gabby scored another 20 goals in the rest of his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Saw the John Terry show and thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 15 hours ago, Michael118 said: If players like Cameron Jerome can score 16 and Glen Murray can score 23 in this division then Agbonalahor is capable of scoring 20 easily. Is Cameron Jerome actually as crap as I've seen him get credit for on here? Whenever i've seen him against us, he seems to cause problems. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is Cameron Jerome actually as crap as I've seen him get credit for on here? Whenever i've seen him against us, he seems to cause problems. lol I've never rated him personally and always thought Gabby was a far better player. But he's still scoring goals and showing he can be effective at this level at least. Edited May 23, 2017 by Michael118 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) Cameron Jerome Age: 30 33 goals in 211 Premier League appearances (0.15 goals per game) 74 goals in 236 Championship appearances (0.31 goals per game) Glenn Murray Age: 33 11 goals in 52 Premier League appearances (0.21 goals per game) 81 goals in 164 Championship appearances (0.49 goals per game) Gabriel Agbonlahor Age: 30 73 goals in 322 Premier League appearances. (0.22 goals per game) Gabby's goals per game ratio in the Premier League is better than both Murray's and Jerome's. Jerome's record is roughly double in the Championship compared to the Premier League and Murray's is similar. If you apply the same logic to Gabby his ratio would be 0.44 which over a season equals 20.24 goals. Edited May 23, 2017 by Michael118 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael118 said: Cameron Jerome Age: 30 33 goals in 211 Premier League appearances (0.15 goals per game) 74 goals in 236 Championship appearances (0.31 goals per game) Glenn Murray Age: 33 11 goals in 52 Premier League appearances (0.21 goals per game) 81 goals in 164 Championship appearances (0.49 goals per game) Gabriel Agbonlahor Age: 30 73 goals in 322 Premier League appearances. (0.22 goals per game) Gabby's goals per game ratio in the Premier League is better than both Murray's and Jerome's. Jerome's record is roughly double in the Championship compared to the Premier League and Murray's is similar. If you apply the same logic to Gabby his ratio would be 0.44 which over a season equals 20.24 goals. Gabby would have played more seasons with better service than those two to be fair. He had Young Milner and Downing providing balls for him for a couple of seasons. The other two would more or less have played in struggling teams any time that they were in the PL. Just for balance, can you please add Gabby's ratio for the Championship taking into account the actual stats as opposed to the one where you've applied your ever so slightly flawed logic? Edited May 23, 2017 by sparrow1988 Didn't read full post that I was replying too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Just for balance, can you please add Gabby's ratio for the Championship as well? There's a reason he deliberately left it out... Edited May 23, 2017 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, villa89 said: There's a reason he deliberately left it out... I actually didn't read the last sentence of his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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