TRO Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 20 minutes ago, PaulC said: The 8 touches thing was as much an insult to our midfield players as Gabby. The 8 touches thing was insult to the fan base......how so few could see through him and the rest of the country could/ has, is a indictment on the current state of fan analysis. he is an embarrassment. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 On 3 December 2015 at 20:37:37, Zatman said: team bottom of the league and fans want their top scorer in the league to stay injured Its as bad as Newcastle or West Ham fans Are you serious, or is it a joke I haven't got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 11 minutes ago, TRO said: In my humble opinion, he is one of those players that has capitalised on the clubs demise.....In simple terms he has had our trousers down. for the life of me , I don't know how he has got away with it. It won't surprise you TRO but I don't think that is true. Under O'Neill he was very good and for a couple of seasons that front three of Carew, Gabby and Ash Young was as good as anything we have had since the days of Saunders Atkinson and Yorke. Since O'Neill left and the better players, Ash, Milner, Downing etc quickly followed and the club totally slumped then so has Gabby's form. Is that totally down to Gabby or is that a case of the quality around him as completely dissipated? I think it is probably a little of both. His good days over the last few years have been few and far between but on his day he is still very effective. I think for the most part he has always put a shift in and I get the impression he is also impressive in training given every manager since 2006 has almost always picked him. Whether or not he can have any impact this season I genuinely don't know and I am not even sure Garde will pick him. If he does though I would not be surprised in the slightest if he scored a handful of crucial goals for us between now and the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 im dead serious we are a shit team with shit strikers and people are frowning about a player who has scored in this league before even though he has been poor for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TRO said: The 8 touches thing was insult to the fan base......how so few could see through him and the rest of the country could/ has, is a indictment on the current state of fan analysis. he is an embarrassment. is that when he was subbed at half time? Apparently he was injured, at what point in that half no idea. if he'd have played the entire game and been fit, he'd have had at least 12. Edited December 4, 2015 by VillanousOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) 34 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: It won't surprise you TRO but I don't think that is true. Under O'Neill he was very good and for a couple of seasons that front three of Carew, Gabby and Ash Young was as good as anything we have had since the days of Saunders Atkinson and Yorke. Since O'Neill left and the better players, Ash, Milner, Downing etc quickly followed and the club totally slumped then so has Gabby's form. Is that totally down to Gabby or is that a case of the quality around him as completely dissipated? I think it is probably a little of both. His good days over the last few years have been few and far between but on his day he is still very effective. I think for the most part he has always put a shift in and I get the impression he is also impressive in training given every manager since 2006 has almost always picked him. Whether or not he can have any impact this season I genuinely don't know and I am not even sure Garde will pick him. If he does though I would not be surprised in the slightest if he scored a handful of crucial goals for us between now and the end of the season. Mark, I have never been a Gabby fan, as I was never a Vassell fan either and I see them,as similar. its not very often I disagree with you,because I agree with much of what you write. but I disagree with your appraisal of Gabby, sorry. i was not a fan of him under O'Neill either, I just cannot compromise with his lack of football intelligence....it just cannot be ignored. I understand and know all the stats but I am simply judging him on the games that I have watched him play and that's just about all of them. i also disagree that he was part of a trio better than Yorke, Saunders and atkinson even taking in to consideration that Atkinson was known as sick note....they were not as good. Gabby would not be able to lace Dwight Yorkes boots, simply no comparison. I am not going to be rude to GA but we have given him much more than he as given us. i will finally say, if there was ever an epitome of Aston Villa's demise The persistence of successive managers to rely on him as much as they have has illustrated this poor decision making to perfection. ps The argument they have all played him so he must be ok is false IMO.......it shows to me the lack of ambition and a contributory epitome of why we are where we are. Edited December 4, 2015 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 No Atkinson was a better footballer too, his career has declined with each season that has passed but I still think he has a job to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I will bow out of this debate if that's ok.....I do not rate the player and think we have made a huge mistake in playing him for as long as we have. the fact he has had as long as he had with us makes any doubt I could have ,less. I appreciate, I am in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meregreen Posted December 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2015 18 minutes ago, TRO said: I will bow out of this debate if that's ok.....I do not rate the player and think we have made a huge mistake in playing him for as long as we have. the fact he has had as long as he had with us makes any doubt I could have ,less. I appreciate, I am in the minority. No your not mate. He's shit. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I predict an upturn in results on Gabby's return. 10 points from the next 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 16 minutes ago, momo said: I predict an upturn in results on Gabby's return. 10 points from the next 5 games. Your trolling right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 What amazes me is that there still appears to be a number of fans who want to try and defend this guy who has done nothing to earn this faith in him. Please please try and tell me what he offers other than an ability to run in a straight line quite quickly, because I'm struggling to come up with something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 4 minutes ago, Dave J said: What amazes me is that there still appears to be a number of fans who want to try and defend this guy who has done nothing to earn this faith in him. Please please try and tell me what he offers other than an ability to run in a straight line quite quickly, because I'm struggling to come up with something. He can't even do that very well any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 53 minutes ago, TRO said: I will bow out of this debate if that's ok.....I do not rate the player and think we have made a huge mistake in playing him for as long as we have. the fact he has had as long as he had with us makes any doubt I could have ,less. I appreciate, I am in the minority. No please don't stay with it. I'm refusing to give up on this debate. I don't care what anybody thinks in my view and yes I accept its a humble view this guy is a very very average professional footballer and should be no where the first team of ASTON VILLA FC in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dave J said: What amazes me is that there still appears to be a number of fans who want to try and defend this guy who has done nothing to earn this faith in him. Please please try and tell me what he offers other than an ability to run in a straight line quite quickly, because I'm struggling to come up with something. Opinion will always dictate the fans have different views.....we must appreciate that. my concern is a case could be made for every player and yet we are where we are. without being personal a constant approval to players that have had so much time to prove themselves and failed is just tantamount IMO to lining up alongside all the clubs poor decisions. There is a danger, we are becoming as bad as them. thats just my opinion. Ps sorry Dave not aimed at you Edited December 4, 2015 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 When was the last time Gabby produced a goal return worthy of the fortune were paying him I can't wait for the window to open so we can sell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 We will need him in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Jersey_Villa Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 What exactly are we paying him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosofsaunders Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Straight back in the side for me. Only if utilised on the left and not down the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 He's got a few assists this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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