AVFCforever1991 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 carroll is a terrible footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 But he's not a bad option if you need to go long. Chelsea dominated the game without breaking a sweat in the Cup Final. Carroll comes on and they couldn't cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 10, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2012 Exactly. And he's not a terrible footballer really, i she. It's funny to say he is, because he's had a crap season. BUt theres a pretty good footballer in there. 6 weeks ago I'd have said take Crouch. Now I'd go for Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 If Carroll played for Norwich nobody would take him. If Holt played for Liverpool everybody would take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Wellbeck reminds me of Darius Vassell the way he plays. I think hes good but not good enough for the international stage. He is like, probably the least similar striker to Vassell in the history of football! He is much more creative, can pass and shoot from outside the box, has more physical presence and smartness to him. Vassell was fast and scored some goals alone with the GK or tap-ins, but that was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaib2004 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 GK: Joe Hart GK: John Ruddy / Ben foster if he decdes he can be bothered to play GK: Any young keeper over Rob Green DF: Kyle Walker DF: Micah Richards DF: Ashley Cole DF: Phil Jagielka (if Fit) DF: Joleon Lescott DF: Rio Ferdinand DF: Gary Cahill DF: Phil Jones MD: Scott Parker MD: Frank Lampard MD: Gareth Barry MD: Ashley Young MD: James Milner MD: Aaron Lennon MD: Theo Walcott FW: Wayne Rooney FW: Peter Crouch FW: Daniel Sturridge FW: Andy Carroll FW: Danny Wellbeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 If Carroll played for Norwich nobody would take him. If Holt played for Liverpool everybody would take him. There's also the fact of Carroll being 23 and Holt 31. Holt deserves consideration based on his goalscoring form and it would be great for a journeyman to go all the way from League 2 to International tournament in just a few years, but he's not any kind of long-term solution. Would say similar for Zamora, who may well be Hodgson's preferred choice. Carroll has had a bad time since moving to Liverpool but it wasn't so long ago he was starring at Newcastle and he may have long term part to play for England, so it might be beneficial to take him to his first major tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 If Carroll played for Norwich nobody would take him. If Holt played for Liverpool everybody would take him. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Here's mine: GK: Joe Hart GK: John Ruddy GK: Rob Green DF: Kyle Walker DF: Micah Richards DF: Ashley Cole DF: Leighton Baines DF: Joleon Lescott DF: John Terry DF: Gary Cahill DF: Phil Jones MD: Scott Parker MD: Steven Gerrard MD: Gareth Barry MD: Ashley Young MD: James Milner MD: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlin MD: Theo Walcott MD: Frank Lampard FW: Wayne Rooney FW: Darren Bent FW: Daniel Sturridge FW: Peter Crouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 crouch over carroll every time for me. Experienced and been in better form much longer. Wouldn't trust Carroll, selecting a striker on the basis of 3 games for England is ridiculous imo. As for Grant Holt, seems like a player who just fits his current side atm, a James Beattie, Marcus Stewart one hit wonder type, not international class for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 If Carroll played for Norwich nobody would take him. If Holt played for Liverpool everybody would take him. Andy Carroll is too good to play for Norwich, thus why he plays for Liverpool. Grant Holt isnt good enough to play for Liverpool, thus why he plays for Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 10, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2012 Andy Carroll is an interesting one. I can definitely see why people would take him. He has been one of the form strikers in the past month and the fact he hadn't played much up to that point means he's hitting form at the right time for England (but wrong time for Liverpool) and he has plenty left in the tank. The only trouble for Carroll is that it's either him or Crouch, and Crouch has never let England down. I'd take either of them in a heartbeat because you need that option in the squad. But I wouldn't take both. And they both have compelling arguments in their favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 GK: Hart, Ruddy, Green. RB: Richards, Walker. LB: Cole, Baines. CB: Terry, Cahill CB Lescott, Jones Wingers: Walcott, Young, Oxlade-Chamberlain. CM: Barry, Parker. CM: Milner, Lampard, Carrick. FW: Rooney, Carroll. FW: Sturridge, Wellbeck. With that squad, i'd probably pick a 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation. Opening game, probably go for: --------------Hart----------- Richards-Cahill-Terry-Cole -------------Parker---------- -------Milner-----Carrick---- Sturridge-------------Young -------------Carroll---------- Not great to look at, but there's enough in that team to provide for Carroll and be slick on the counter attack. Gerrard, Ferdinand miss out because i don't think their bodies are up to international tournament football, and while Terry is a word removed, he's still performing to a high standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 If Carroll played for Norwich nobody would take him. If Holt played for Liverpool everybody would take him. Andy Carroll is too good to play for Norwich, thus why he plays for Liverpool. Grant Holt isnt good enough to play for Liverpool, thus why he plays for Norwich. So if you play for a small club then you're not good enough to play for England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 10, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2012 Just say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 10, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2012 Mine would probably be GKs: Hart, Ruddy, Green DFs: Cole, Baines, Terry, Lescott, Cahill, Jagielka, Richards, Walker MFs: Young, Milner, Barry, Parker, Carrick, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott FWs: Rooney, Sturridge, Carroll, Bent Assumptions there are that Bent is fit, Wilshere isn't, and people like FOster and Scholes haven't come out of retirement! My first XI would probably be ------------------Hart Richards, Lescott, Terry, Cole -------------Parker, Carrick -----------------Milner Sturridge--------------------Young -----------------Rooney Obviously replace Rooney with Bent for the games he's out. And in reality, Milner will never get played there. It'll be Lampard instead. I think that squad actually has a very good defence. We all hate him, but Terry is still a quality CB, and given time to play with either Lescott or Cahill, I think either could be a good partnership. Cole is still one of the best fullbacks in the world, and Richards has had a great season. Plus Hart is quality. Add Parker in front of them and defensively we'll actually be fairly solid I would have thought. Our downfall will be a lack of creativity going forward at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Matt Jarvis is actually good enough to play for England. He is actually quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 10, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2012 As good as Norwich have been, they've kept 2 (TWO) clean sheets all season. That's the worst in the league. Worse than Blackburn, Bolton (both 3) and Wolves (4). I would take Foster (10 clean sheets) and I'd be confident that Hodgson will too. The only English keeper above him in clean sheets this season is Hart with 17. Now I know defences play a big part in clean sheets. I just think 2 versus 10 for two sides only 3pts apart in the league is too much to explain away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 GK: Hart CB: Lescott CB: Terry CB: Ferdinand RM:Lennon/ Walcott LM: Dyer CM: K.Henry CM: Cattermole ST: Holt AM: Rooney (Osman to play when Rooney is suspended) ST: Carroll Inspired by Wigan's 4-3-3. Terry organises the back three a la Caldwell. Sheer pace out wide. Centre mids to intimidate those horrible foreigners and win the ball back and give it to a deep-lying Rooney (if he's playing or out wide). Whip in the crosses and let the big men nod it in the back post. No Stevie/ Lampard nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 10, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2012 As good as Norwich have been, they've kept 2 (TWO) clean sheets all season. That's the worst in the league. Worse than Blackburn, Bolton (both 3) and Wolves (4). I would take Foster (10 clean sheets) and I'd be confident that Hodgson will too. The only English keeper above him in clean sheets this season is Hart with 17. Now I know defences play a big part in clean sheets. I just think 2 versus 10 for two sides only 3pts apart in the league is too much to explain away. I'd take Foster too. In a heartbeat. But he's "retired" and says he has no intention of coming back. I guess his club manager might be able to convince him but I wouldn't count on it. But apart from him and Hart, we don't have an awful lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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