mjmooney Posted May 8, 2012 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2012 For those who enjoy talking about that sort of thing. Keep it in here to avoid annoying people in General Chat, Things That Piss You Off, etc., etc. I'll start: I'll bet God really hates me for not believing in him. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 IBTG (in before the God) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Cant we just bump an old thread? I say so because this one will have exactly the same people making exactly the same posts in exactly the same order as the other 812 religion threads on VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 If God exists, then why do such bad things happen to the innocent? ie. children dying etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Ah, Mike, you just couldn't resist it could you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 If God exists, then why do such bad things happen to the innocent? ie. children dying etc. Getting them to heaven more quickly, innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 If God exists, then why do such bad things happen to the innocent? ie. children dying etc. ...mysterious ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 8, 2012 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2012 If I bump an old thread I get bollocked for thread necrophilia. If I start a new one I get told to resurrect an old one. Told you God didn't like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWithe Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Gods used to be a lot more cooler before muslims and christians came along. Im talking Roman/Greek/Eygptian gods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Athiest I may be, but I do hope there's some sort of afterlife-type thing. The concept of an eternal nothingness terrifies the crap out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'm reading a religious thread on Youtube right now and it is driving me bonkers. There's this Catholic kook - a very articulate kook, but a kook nonetheless - who's asserting that distributing condoms to people in Africa is somehow raping them via capitalism.....or some shit like that. Someone help me out because I'm having a very hard time trying to figure out why he thinks this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 The concept of an eternal nothingness terrifies the crap out of me. Yep, me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 The concept of an eternal nothingness terrifies the crap out of me. Yep, me too. Don't worry, wish hard enough and you'll end up believing in one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 8, 2012 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2012 The concept of an eternal nothingness terrifies the crap out of me. Yep, me too. Don't worry, wish hard enough and you'll end up believing in one Well spotted. What's the worry? We won't be around to experience this nothingness, any more than we experienced it before we were born. But it's a good reason to enjoy being alive NOW, instead of worrying about not being alive in future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I get that, the whole "well, I'm not going to notice it anyway" thing, but it stills gives me the creeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 The concept of an eternal nothingness terrifies the crap out of me. Yep, me too. Don't worry, wish hard enough and you'll end up believing in one Well spotted. What's the worry? We won't be around to experience this nothingness, any more than we experienced it before we were born. But it's a good reason to enjoy being alive NOW, instead of worrying about not being alive in future. Not sure if we're on the same page. I was referring to confirmation bias. Humans tend to select information and twist them around in ways that confirm their existing biases and beliefs. So, if you really really really wished for an afterlife, you would theoretically be subject to the above mentioned psychological mechanism and hence subconsciously be more inclined to look for evidence that supports the existence of one, and then conjure up convoluted ways to construct whatever scarce "evidence" you now have into crackpot theories to support your which. Doesn't make the existence of an afterlife any truer of course, but hey whatever makes you happy right. I think this is probably one of the biggest reasons why religion has always been and continues to be widespread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 8, 2012 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2012 The concept of an eternal nothingness terrifies the crap out of me. Yep, me too. Don't worry, wish hard enough and you'll end up believing in one Well spotted. What's the worry? We won't be around to experience this nothingness, any more than we experienced it before we were born. But it's a good reason to enjoy being alive NOW, instead of worrying about not being alive in future. Not sure if we're on the same page. I was referring to confirmation bias. Humans tend to select information and twist them around in ways that confirm their existing biases and beliefs. So, if you really really really wished for an afterlife, you would theoretically be subject to the above mentioned psychological mechanism and hence subconsciously be more inclined to look for evidence that supports the existence of one, and then conjure up convoluted ways to construct whatever scarce "evidence" you now have into crackpot theories to support your which. Doesn't make the existence of an afterlife any truer of course, but hey whatever makes you happy right. I think this is probably one of the biggest reasons why religion has always been and continues to be widespread. No, I got it. I was referring more to the original post about worrying about the nothingness. You are quite correct that the way many people deal with this is translating wishing it weren't so into believing that it isn't so, with zero justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Pointless religion thread #72984729992109 on VT. In the entire history of the known universe, nothing has ever been accomplished and nobody has ever changed their mind on anything as a result of online discussion regarding religion. This thread will go one of three ways: 1. No religious folk will post and the atheists on VT will get bored of their self congratulation after five pages, leaving the thread to eventually dissolve into nothingness. 2. Religious folk will post, at which point the thread will explode to fifty plus pages, most of which will be mockery of said religious folk punctuated by the odd reasonable, intelligent post that will be inevitably ignored. 3. Religious folk will post, at which point a fair and reasonable debate will ensue, however 99% of posters will be so preoccupied on their own opinion that they won't bother to read anybody elses, the result being that the same 3 arguments are repeated ad infinitum for 300 pages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 8, 2012 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2012 So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 nothing has ever been accomplished But it's fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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