03butpau Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I have a horrible feeling that this is going to end terribly like last year and we get someone like mcarthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I have a horrible feeling that this is going to end terribly like last year and we get someone like mcarthyThink people are going to start setting themselves on fire in front of VP if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Mysteryman and Gaztonvilla have been suspiciously quiet... After the public ho-ha of the last approach, do you blame them? Plus I think after that rebuff they now know about as much as we do. Remember last year? For all I know we could be talking to Shearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane17 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Mysteryman and Gaztonvilla have been suspiciously quiet... After the public ho-ha of the last approach, do you blame them? Plus I think after that rebuff they now know about as much as we do. Remember last year? For all I know we could be talking to Shearer To be fair to MM, I don't remember him ever saying we were nailed on to get OGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted May 25, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2012 Glenn Hoddle is today's mover then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Glenn Hoddle is today's mover then Christ, what must have Villa fans been in a previous life?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 rl and pf will look like fools if they appoint rafa as he is not young and dynamic like they said they were looking for! I am not for Benitez, and he might not fit the description of what Faulkner said, but I wouldn’t think it made them look like fools. More than a few people would see it as quite a coup; certainly more so than appointing many of the managers who have been associated with this process. Some people might even say it was a statement of intent. Some might say if he were backed properly he might attract some decent players. Again he’s not my choice, but preferable to say McLeish or McCarthy (not that thats saying much!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Sky Sports News @SkySportsNews Sky Sources: Ray Wilkins & Claudio Ranieri have held talks with West Brom over vacant head coach's job #SSN I can see Wilkins trying to get his name forward for the Villa job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazilla Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Glenn Hoddle is today's mover then No, no, no. He was a right prat at Wolves and the players did not like working with him. I would prefer Eileen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I think managers have a kind of 'shelf-life' where thier tactics or their footballing ethos first rises, then reaches its peak and finally declines. Rafa I feel is in the later. Yes he WAS a very good manager no doubt, he won the CL FFS. However I personally feel he's lost some of his magic and he's certainly not the manager he was seven years ago. I think what I'm trying to say is that, Villa need (and I would much prefer) a rising star to a fading beauty. Totally disagree! That would mean that SAF is who has managed the same club for over 20 years should have passed his best a long time ago. And Arsene Wenger, how many years has he managed Arsenal? There is a lot of managers who has been managing for a long time and still are very very good. Bielsa in Bilbao is certainly not a newcomer and neither are Capello and a number of other competent managers. I think that age factor is more likely to link with lack of motivation that managers get when they are getting older and/or has won a lot of titles. Furthermore the key is to get a manager that fits the situation the club is in, can work well together with the board and senior staff at the club and is widely accepted by the fans which insures him the time needed to change a clubs direction even if the initial results on the pitch are not what the fans expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 So we havent approached Lambert or Martinez but have approached OGS and Rafa, OGS has pulled out, and yet the rumour is that the board want Lambert. Surely if you have a no1 target you approach them to see if they are interested before discounting the also rans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Di Matteos record since taking the reins at Chelsea FA - Birmingham (a) 2-0w PL - Stoke (h) 1-0w CL - Napoli (h) 4-1w a.e.t. FA - Leicester (h) 5-2w PL - Man City (a) 2-1L PL - Spurs (h) 0-0d CL - Benfica (a) 1-0w PL - Villa (a) 4-2w CL - Benfica (h) 2-1w PL - Wigan (h) 2-1w PL - Fulham (a) 1-1d FA - Spurs (n) 5-1w CL - Barca (h) 1-0w PL - Arsenal (a) 0-0d CL - Barca (a) 2-2d PL - QPR (h) 6-1w PL - Newc (h) 2-0L FA - Liver (n) 2-1w PL - Liver (a) 4-1L PL - Bburn (h) 2-1 CL - Bayern (n) 1-1 4-3 pens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I think managers have a kind of 'shelf-life' where thier tactics or their footballing ethos first rises, then reaches its peak and finally declines. Rafa I feel is in the later. Yes he WAS a very good manager no doubt, he won the CL FFS. However I personally feel he's lost some of his magic and he's certainly not the manager he was seven years ago. I think what I'm trying to say is that, Villa need (and I would much prefer) a rising star to a fading beauty. Totally disagree! That would mean that SAF is who has managed the same club for over 20 years should have passed his best a long time ago. And Arsene Wenger, how many years has he managed Arsenal? There is a lot of managers who has been managing for a long time and still are very very good. Bielsa in Bilbao is certainly not a newcomer and neither are Capello and a number of other competent managers. I think that age factor is more likely to link with lack of motivation that managers get when they are getting older and/or has won a lot of titles. Furthermore the key is to get a manager that fits the situation the club is in, can work well together with the board and senior staff at the club and is widely accepted by the fans which insures him the time needed to change a clubs direction even if the initial results on the pitch are not what the fans expect. Who mentioned any timescale or any age limits? I very much consider SAF and Wenger to still be at their peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazilla Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Di Matteos record since taking the reins at Chelsea FA - Birmingham (a) 2-0w PL - Stoke (h) 1-0w CL - Napoli (h) 4-1w a.e.t. FA - Leicester (h) 5-2w PL - Man City (a) 2-1L PL - Spurs (h) 0-0d CL - Benfica (a) 1-0w PL - Villa (a) 4-2w CL - Benfica (h) 2-1w PL - Wigan (h) 2-1w PL - Fulham (a) 1-1d FA - Spurs (n) 5-1w CL - Barca (h) 1-0w PL - Arsenal (a) 0-0d CL - Barca (a) 2-2d PL - QPR (h) 6-1w PL - Newc (h) 2-0L FA - Liver (n) 2-1w PL - Liver (a) 4-1L PL - Bburn (h) 2-1 CL - Bayern (n) 1-1 4-3 pens How about his last 12 games for Albion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 25, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2012 Last 12 WBA games from oldest to most recent LWLLLLLLWLDL The above also includes going out of both cups to lower league opposition (Ipswich & Reading). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazilla Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Last 12 WBA games from oldest to most recent LWLLLLLLWLDL The above also includes going out of both cups to lower league opposition (Ipswich & Reading). That is why he was sacked and most Albion fans were delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 The thing is the manager has to be the right fit. You could be the greatest manager in the world and do a awful job at some clubs. Very very few managers guarantee success at any club.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bane17 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 How many times does it need to be said... NO TO ROBERTO DI MATTEO. I don't care if he won the FA Cup and Champions League. He inherited a good squad which we DO NOT have and used negative tactics. There are better candidates out there and I would be extremely disappointed if he was appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizme Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 One under the radar? Deschamps? Nahh, dont think so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 If Ranieri is being interviewed by the boggies we'd best be **** interviewing him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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