Voinjama Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 When Kluiver, Seedorf, and Davids were in the Dutch team they got to 3 semis in 4 tournaments (98, 2000 and 2004). Since they left the team arround 2005 ish, they have only got that far of further once (2010). Anyway completely off topic. I predict a close win for Holland, I dont think the England team is as bad as people think. Some good players in there with a point to prove. Because of Villas poor form this season I am already looking beyond and cant wait for this summers festival in Poland and Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 England are a top tier nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 since van marwijk took over and without the Surinamese connection(seedorf, davisds adn kluivert) Holland have looked better and stronger So it was the black players fault? :winkold: What happened in Euro 2008? I wasnt aware of this bad situation in their camp. But then again thinking about it they were awesome in the group stage beating world cup winners Italy, and world cup runners up France by 3 goal margins. And then against an inferior Russia they just flopped. Was a bit strange. If I remember Sneijder caught Van Persie with a tackle in training, they had a bit of an arguement, nothing more, nothing less and it was all forgotten about but there is this myth about the Dutch team 'always' falling out with each other that the media like to play on. Yes, years ago Davids and Seedorf thought that the black players were being held back with in the national team and they caused a rift in the team but apart from that, when have there been problems? Yes, we've gone to tournaments playing like a bunch of individuals rather than a team and ended up getting beaten, or in some cases 2002, not qualifying for the World Cup because of it but to say it is because the team is always falling out with eachother is a load of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The only possible reason I can see for Campbell being in the squad is so Pearce can say 'oh look I will pick players who are on form if I am manager'... So it's completely impossible that he's just picking a player on form then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The only possible reason I can see for Campbell being in the squad is so Pearce can say 'oh look I will pick players who are on form if I am manager'... So it's completely impossible that he's just picking a player on form then? A player who has been on form for 3 games, yeah that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'd say that's pretty much the exact definition of 'form'. You either want players picked based on whether they are playing well at the moment or you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Form is not 3 games though, I'm sure he's been on the bench just as much as he's played recently! Form is months/half season etc.. you don't pick players based on a couple weeks of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Form is months/half season etc.. you don't pick players based on a couple weeks of football. Says whom? I wouldn't have picked him either. But it's hardly the most ridiculous decision in the world. I just find a bit daft that people shout for players to be picked on form and as soon as a manager does that the same people start shouting that he shouldn't be picked because he's only played well in a few games recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 according to wiki he got injured august 2010, played 1 game in april 2011 got injured again, came back january 2012 played 2 and half games (1 and half in the cup) and somehow is in good enough form to be called up england, you cant even argue that he was an amazing player before the injury that england should be happy to have back, he scored 4 goals in 31 games before his injury its a **** joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 according to wiki he got injured august 2010, played 1 game in april 2011 got injured again, came back january 2012 played 2 and half games (1 and half in the cup) and somehow is in good enough form to be called up england, you cant even argue that he was an amazing player before the injury that england should be happy to have back, he scored 4 goals in 31 games before his injury its a **** joke 100% perfect for the England team then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 If I remember Sneijder caught Van Persie with a tackle in training, they had a bit of an arguement, nothing more, nothing less and it was all forgotten about but there is this myth about the Dutch team 'always' falling out with each other that the media like to play on. am sure they refused to pass to each other at times and used to have arguments over taking set-pieces. Credit to Van Maarwijk he has turned them into a more solid commited team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 27, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 27, 2012 Walker has been pulled out of the squad now. Uh oh, he will just have to make do with just the twelve right backs now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why hasn't Gabby been called up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Quite a few players have pulled out already.. VDV, Walker etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why hasn't Gabby been called up? Because he plays for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 To be fair, everytime Gabby has been called up in the last year or so, he finds a reason to pull out (possibly quite genuinely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yeah I'm normally one saying he should be in the squad but he was pretty rusty on Saturday I thought so lacking fitness. Pearce probably hasn't forgiven him for pulling out of the under 21 tournament aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why hasn't Gabby been called up? Because he plays for us. Because he plays for the club that has provided more England internationals than any other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Why hasn't Gabby been called up? Because he plays for us. Because he plays for the club that has provided more England internationals than any other? That seems like a long long time ago to me. We aren't in the best of form - to say the least - so unsurprising to me that none of our players have been selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andykeenan Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Scott Parker named England captain this evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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