TrentVilla Posted September 25, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 25, 2016 It isn't about player development it's to help them meet FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Bring back David Luiz. Everything goes to rat shit. I have seen this before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Bring back David Luiz. Everything goes to rat shit. I have seen this before.. Its really not a coincidence and for me signing him proves Conte has no say in signings. to quote Eamon Dunphy " David Luiz is a headbanger" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Bring back David Luiz. Everything goes to rat shit. I have seen this before.. He really is an awful player isn't he? One of the biggest con artists in the history of football. His ability to con his way into 'top' clubs is akin to what Ali Dia did at Southampton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Problems at Chelsea lie in the future of their defense. Luiz is a liability, Ivanovic looks like his legs have gone and Terry is 35. While still being good Cahill is not in that top bracket of defenders. They will need to spend a fortune on defenders in the coming years unless they start using some of their many loanees and testing them at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I didn't understand them spending 20m on Marcos Alonso either. It seems he improved in Italy but let's be honest when he played for Sunderland and Bolton he didn't look like some exceptional player in terrible teams...he looked as mediocre as all the other defenders in those teams like Zat Knight and John O'Shea. Conte will play 3-5-2 but will only do that when Zouma comes back from injury. Even then I'm not convinced Chelsea have the wing backs for that system unless they play Willian there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, Nicho said: Problems at Chelsea lie in the future of their defense. Luiz is a liability, Ivanovic looks like his legs have gone and Terry is 35. While still being good Cahill is not in that top bracket of defenders. They will need to spend a fortune on defenders in the coming years unless they start using some of their many loanees and testing them at this stage. The thing is we all know they will do precisely that. Chelsea's modus operandi has been to throw money at the problem ever since Matthew Harding bankrolled the signatures of Gullit, Vialli, Zola et al in the mid 90s. Abramovich doubled down and the club have found it to be a very effective strategy. They'll sell Cahill and JT will retire and we'll see a new central defensive partnership in place next season. I think this year all they need to do is qualify for the big cup again and they'll probably be able to manage that with the squad they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 They should have done more to try and sign Bonucci. Luiz is just an utter calamity, Cahill isn't good enough for the level they wish to be at (as evidenced by his stupid error yesterday) and Terry is shot. It's almost certainly the case that Conti had little say in transfers because if he did they probably would have signed two or three quality centre halves in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) So supposedly they are looking at more english players going forward in the transfer market. Probably not out the question, Terry isn't getting any younger whilst Cahill is fast looking a liability. They have already scouted Michael Keane and Ben Gibson and are linked with Davies from Spurs supposedly. Maybe just maybe they might give the 40 odd players they have out on loan a chance. Maybe. Hmm.. Edited September 26, 2016 by dudevillaisnice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 25/09/2016 at 12:36, Zatman said: to quote Eamon Dunphy " David Luiz is a headbanger" It's true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 6 hours ago, dudevillaisnice said: So supposedly they are looking at more english players going forward in the transfer market. Probably not out the question, Terry isn't getting any younger whilst Cahill is fast looking a liability. They have already scouted Michael Keane and Ben Gibson and are linked with Davies from Spurs supposedly. Maybe just maybe they might give the 40 odd players they have out on loan a chance. Maybe. Hmm.. Yep the likes of Baker, Loftus Cheek and even Chalobah, could have very good careers but won't be given proper chances at Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 On 26/09/2016 at 23:37, mikeyp102 said: Yep the likes of Baker, Loftus Cheek and even Chalobah, could have very good careers but won't be given proper chances at Chelsea Would they really be worse than Jon Obi Mikel? That bloke has somehow conned a career at Chelsea for 11 years now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Betting suspended on Conte being the next manager to get sacked. Something has to be happening behind the scenes because I don't see how Conte could be sacked this early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Damn... we could have avoided Bruce Eccentricity: Privilege available to billionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Quote Chelsea have signed a 15-year kit deal with Nike worth £60m a season They paid £40m to break their contract with addidas who were paying £30m a year and get a £60m a year deal instead. The gap between rich and poor is enormous. Edited October 13, 2016 by villa89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Czechlad said: Betting suspended on Conte being the next manager to get sacked. Something has to be happening behind the scenes because I don't see how Conte could be sacked this early. Paddy power on talksport said there was some unusual betting from walk ins at bookies near the ground hence why they reacted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 On 13/10/2016 at 17:17, Czechlad said: Betting suspended on Conte being the next manager to get sacked. Something has to be happening behind the scenes because I don't see how Conte could be sacked this early. From the always excellent F365: Quote On Thursday, rumours emerged about Antonio Conte’s future as Chelsea manager being in doubt. After Chelsea’s £900m deal with Nike was announced, bookmakers took some hefty bets on Conte being the next Premier League manager to leave his job. ‘Is Antonio Conte about to be sacked by Chelsea? Bookies SUSPEND betting on Italian being axed,’ read the Daily Express‘ tweet at 4.52pm. Firstly, bookmakers ‘suspending betting’ is hardly massive news. It’s a regular occurrence, typically done by certain bookies (and it was only three of the many that did suspend the odds) who are understandably wary of leaving high odds on something they have little inside information about. Big bets reduce prices – that’s just how it works. Twenty-one minutes later, the Daily Express had tweeted again: ‘Antonio Conte is NOT about to be sacked by Chelsea – despite bookies suspending betting on him being axed’. Way to change your tune. By 5.39pm, the Express had changed their mind again, spotting an opportunity to drag this one out further. ‘Who could replace Antonio Conte at Chelsea,’ read their headline, with the piece sold on Diego Simeone being the favourite. And which is the only bookmaker currently offering a market on the next Chelsea manager? The one who suspended the betting, naturally. Now Mediawatch is not saying that anything murky is going on, but a leading bookmaker suspends its odds on something, and that then becomes a news story (one vehemently denied by Chelsea and Conte’s agents, for what it’s worth). One newspaper that runs the story most vehemently is one that has previously offered free bets with that same bookmaker on its front page. That same bookmaker then opens a market on the next manager, which also becomes a news story with the same paper. Both stories contain free advertising for the bookmaker, and a gallery of ‘potential candidates’ contains their odds. Meanwhile, we’re left with an unpleasant taste in the mouth. And which was one of the three bookmakers to suspend their odds? Sun Bets, that’s who. Owned by The Sun, who promote the bookmaker on their website. So, we have a news story on a betting market controlled by the outlet producing the news? The interest in the story then invites bets, which lowers the price (as well as raising funds for Sun Bets should it not come in), which thus gives the news story added credence. Then, three hours later, you can produce a story about the reaction to the betting markets which made the story. Like this: View image on Twitter Follow The Sun - Chelsea ✔@SunChelsea Chelsea fans left in shock after Antonio Conte rumourshttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1971525/antonio-conte-sacked-chelsea-fans-take-to-twitter-after-bookmakers-suspend-betting-on-blues-boss-to-be-the-next-manager-facing-the-axe/ … 7:43 PM - 13 Oct 2016 Retweets 22 likes Then, finally, the next morning, when it all looks like smoke but no fire, you can do this: ‘Antonio Conte sacked: Chelsea boss’ future at Stamford Bridge is safe after betting firms spark sack rumours’ – The Sun. By ‘Antonio Conte: Sacked’ you mean ‘Antonio Conte not sacked’, and by ‘betting firms’ you mean your own company. It all just feels wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 To be honest, it should be illegal for one organisation to both disseminate 'news' and provide gambling markets. There is no good justification for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 31 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: To be honest, it should be illegal for one organisation to both disseminate 'news' and provide gambling markets. There is no good justification for it. Skybet is obviously the worst type, especially as gullible idiots will bet on transfer rumours they make up on Sky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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