tonyh29 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Johnny Rico and his ruffnecks are from Buenos Aires and Dizzy has a cracking pair as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2012 Rico's Roughnecks? Starship Troopers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Bloody hell, you got the pop culture reference. :shock: Actually, thinking about it, you've probably read the book. You've read every book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2012 Bloody hell, you got the pop culture reference. :shock:No I didn't. I got the 1950s Robert Heinlein book reference. Except that in the book Rico was not Argentinian (as far as I recall), hence the "?" Never seen the film, but it looks shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Knew it. As for the film, well, it's pure marmite. You'd either love it for it's tongue-in-cheek, verging-on-gun-porn-mindlessness or hate it for it's... well, for it's tongue-in-cheek, verging-on-gun-porn mindlessness. To say it veers wildly from the source material would be an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Never seen the film, but it looks shite. it is ... and yet it's also superb it was on itv the other week and I stayed up until 2am watching it even though I've seen it dozens of times ( t'was one of the first dvd's i ever brought , it's that old (though new in terms of where it sits in the history of DVD :confused:) that is is a "flipper" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Never seen the film, but it looks shite. it is ... and yet it's also superb it was on itv the other week and I stayed up until 2am watching it even though I've seen it dozens of times ( t'was one of the first dvd's i ever brought , it's that old (though new in terms of where it sits in the history of DVD :confused:) that is is a "flipper" ) This. It sits squarly on the "So bad its good" end of the cinematic continuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Never seen the film, but it looks shite. it is ... and yet it's also superb it was on itv the other week and I stayed up until 2am watching it even though I've seen it dozens of times ( t'was one of the first dvd's i ever brought , it's that old (though new in terms of where it sits in the history of DVD :confused:) that is is a "flipper" ) This. It sits squarly on the "So bad its good" end of the cinematic continuum. It was a very deliberate choice to make it that way. It was not a mistake that ended up being good. Verhoeven is taking the piss out of the fascist themes from the book and indirectly the fans of the original book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2012 Fans of the original book (and I am one, despite its politics) should also check out Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War" (which was written as a more or less direct response). Very good sf, in the only format where sf works for me - on the printed page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Verhoeven is taking the piss out of the fascist themes from the book and indirectly the fans of the original book. Well you know what they say; People who make "Showgirls" shouldn't throw bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Verhoeven is taking the piss out of the fascist themes from the book and indirectly the fans of the original book. Well you know what they say; People who make "Showgirls" shouldn't throw bricks. Another "so bad its good classic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Never seen the film, but it looks shite. it is ... and yet it's also superb it was on itv the other week and I stayed up until 2am watching it even though I've seen it dozens of times ( t'was one of the first dvd's i ever brought , it's that old (though new in terms of where it sits in the history of DVD :confused:) that is is a "flipper" ) This. It sits squarly on the "So bad its good" end of the cinematic continuum. It was a very deliberate choice to make it that way. It was not a mistake that ended up being good. Verhoeven is taking the piss out of the fascist themes from the book and indirectly the fans of the original book. Exactly. Nobody had a good word for the film when it came out and then over the years opinion changed on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Exactly. Nobody had a good word for the film when it came out and then over the years opinion changed on it. Like Shawshank redemption , but I fear we are going way off topic now ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 The best bit about the movie is the soundtrack amazing Rip Basil Poledouris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2012 Exactly. Nobody had a good word for the film when it came out and then over the years opinion changed on it. Like Shawshank redemption , but I fear we are going way off topic now ... Not quite the case, Shawshank was critically acclaimed, just nobody went to the cinema to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple solution. Send me over, and I'll tell her "Hands off the Islands, they're ours, end of. Now, get yer drawers off cuz I'm gonna do ya up the wrong 'un". Cuz I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yup count me in too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Diplomacy the RR way... They don’t like her in the Falklands Falkland Islands newspaper calls Cristina Fernández de Kirchner a bitch Thousands of complaints after insult that followed Fernández accusing Britain of militarising south Atlantic islands reddit this Rory Carroll, Latin America correspondent, and Uki Goni in Buenos Aires guardian.co.uk, Thursday 9 February 2012 04.09 GMT Article history Argentina's president, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, has accused Britain of militarising the disputed south Atlantic Islands. Photograph: Leo La Valle/Epa/Corbis The Falkland Islands newspaper the Penguin News has triggered uproar on Argentinian social networks by calling President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner a bitch. The newspaper's website uploaded a photo of Fernández briefly using the insult as a file name on Wednesday, a day after she accused Britain of militarising the south Atlantic islands. The word triggered an immediate avalanche of complaints and abuse from Argentinians, reflecting heightened sensitivity towards the archipelago in the runup to the 30th anniversary of the war with Britain. The Buenos Aires daily La Nacion said the word, "perra" in Spanish, was a strong "anglo-saxon term ... signifying disrespect". Within hours more than 2,000 readers responded with comments, many vitriolic. The Penguin News, which is printed weekly and online updated daily, usually has a tiny readership – the islands have a population of 3,000 – but the escalating diplomatic row between London and Buenos Aires has in recent weeks attracted many readers in Argentina, which calls the islands Las Malvinas and asserts ownership. To illustrate a story about Fernández's speech on Tuesday it uploaded a photograph of the president with the offending word. Those who saved the image found that the default file name was "bitch". Challenged by an Argentinian on her Twitter feed the editor, Lisa Watson, replied: "emmm oops – not now you'll find." The word was removed. Watson referred to colleagues' "dry humour". By then however the page had been saved and posted on multiple websites, prompting online fury. The editor's Twitter feed reflected angry and often vicious hate messages. Penguin staff did not reply to emails or phone calls last night but last week, before the controversy, Watson told the Guardian she had been receiving abusive messages for weeks. "I receive threats and insults via our work email address and on Twitter. The threats I try not to take seriously, particularly as the individuals tend to sign their name and even offer 'besos' (kisses) after claiming they are coming to the Falklands and their first task will be to kill me. Mainly I am referred to as a prostitute, liar, thief and pirate, other words I really wouldn't like to mention." She did not keep such emails, she said. "I read and delete immediately because it's not something you want to keep as a souvenir, but one said 'Die you decadence whore', others say things like 'I am coming to the Malvinas so walk softly because I will find you.'" She did not take them seriously. "I assume it is simply people momentarily angry because they have read something in their newspaper about the islands – I suppose we all feel like that sometimes but threatening to kill me seems a little extreme." Watson said she was more upset about random calls to islanders. "It's intimidating to be woken in the night to someone shouting at you in Spanish." Nevertheless she said it was important to have dialogue. "I have no objection to chatting and debating with Argentines. My reason for doing so is in the hope they will see us as a people with our own culture and our own thoughts. I live in hope that they will understand we are not 'British imperialists' but a population that has struggled to develop this little country and deserve to be allowed to live in peace. "I should say that I also receive many messages of support from Argentines or messages from people who do not agree with my point of view but want to offer kind thoughts anyway." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2012 "Penguin News" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 9, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2012 The word was removed That's even worse!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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