Voinjama Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Even with the 10 point deduction they will probably finish higher than when Mcleish was managing them 3rd place when your manager of Rangers, how is that even possible theyre still 9 points clear of third. No you misunderstood me. When McCleish was manager of Rangers, they finished 3rd. Look at the scottish league table from 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Now say Rangers do get hit with the full penalties by the HMRC and Sir Craig Whtye reckons the total bill would be around £75m obviously the club would go into liquidation it just means that the Scottish football Sir Craig Whyte? I think you mean Sir David Murray??? It seems that Murray for years and years was running a business that cheated HMRC. So I ve been paying for the pleasure of this and Portsmouth. Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsXI Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Now say Rangers do get hit with the full penalties by the HMRC and Sir Craig Whtye reckons the total bill would be around £75m obviously the club would go into liquidation it just means that the Scottish football Sir Craig Whyte? I think you mean Sir David Murray??? It seems that Murray for years and years was running a business that cheated HMRC. So I ve been paying for the pleasure of this and Portsmouth. Great the sir Craig Whyte bit was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No you misunderstood me. When McCleish was manager of Rangers, they finished 3rd. Look at the scottish league table from 2006. But whatever you do, don't look at the wider context of that particular campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Even with the 10 point deduction they will probably finish higher than when Mcleish was managing them 3rd place when your manager of Rangers, how is that even possible theyre still 9 points clear of third. No you misunderstood me. When McCleish was manager of Rangers, they finished 3rd. Look at the scottish league table from 2006. Only a point difference :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No you misunderstood me. When McCleish was manager of Rangers, they finished 3rd. Look at the scottish league table from 2006. But whatever you do, don't look at the wider context of that particular campaign. no excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 14, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2012 No you misunderstood me. When McCleish was manager of Rangers, they finished 3rd. Look at the scottish league table from 2006. But whatever you do, don't look at the wider context of that particular campaign. no excuses When did excuse become a synonym for surrender ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Losses of 29m, 30m and 33m in consecutive year Wreckless financial management of a football club Sound familiar ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 14, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2012 Losses of 29m, 30m and 33m in consecutive year Wreckless financial management of a football club Sound familiar ? No, not really, what you are getting at is not similar at all, it would only be similar if HMRC had been running Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I know it's a tax bill But under David Murray they were all at sea financially which will have been a factor here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 14, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2012 I know it's a tax bill But under David Murray they were all at sea financially which will have been a factor here Actually they weren't they used a device to avoid tax that they thought was legal. What doesn't seem to have been said by many at the moment, is that this is very much a test case. Rangers were by no means the only club to use this tax dodge to pay players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Those losses were posted to companies house Almost 100m losses over 3 years. Fact Are you saying that is not Wreckless ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 14, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2012 Seriously, what's the point of Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If Rangers are allowed into the english pyramid, will it be Newport County that have to make way for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Seriously, what's the point of Scotland? Somewhere for the Scots to live. An admirable function. Keeps them out of England for the most part (football managers excepted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 15, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 15, 2012 Those losses were posted to companies house Almost 100m losses over 3 years. Fact Are you saying that is not Wreckless ?? I'm saying that if the person that owns the company is also its major creditor then that is entirely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Didn't they also sign a player on the same day they started the proceddings for administration? If that isn't taking the piss then I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 No you misunderstood me. When McCleish was manager of Rangers, they finished 3rd. Look at the scottish league table from 2006. But whatever you do, don't look at the wider context of that particular campaign. no excuses When did excuse become a synonym for surrender ;-) What happened in that campaign. Being manager of one of the Glasgow giants and only being 3rd is poor. There is no excuse for it, injuries happen, they still shopuld have had enough to be top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Some Premier League clubs to follwo Rangers? Eight Premier League sides are in danger of going into administration as HM Revenue and Customs widen their tax probe, according to Wednesday's papers. The Sun reports that the tax authorities have launched investigations into the clubs, which like Rangers used Employment Benefit Trusts to pay foreign players. The money is paid tax free into an overseas account, resulting in the player saving 50 per cent tax - so long as they do not draw out the money until they leave the country at the end of their contract. HMRC have now declared war on the tax dodge, however, opening the floodgates for a number of actions similar to that being carried out at Rangers. "Rangers may be the tip of the iceberg," football finance expert Dr Chris Brady told the paper. "EBTs became popular with clubs as a means of reducing crippling wage bills. We believe at least eight current or former Premier League clubs are being investigated." The Daily Record carries fresh allegations about Rangers owner Craig Whyte's behaviour, alleging that £9 million of income tax collected from employees' salaries via PAYE has been kept by the club. It is this, the paper reports, that prompted HMRC's court action on Tuesday to hurry Rangers into administration The key part being "The Sun report" so probably BS but at least we can dream one of the 8 are small heath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The key part being "The Sun report" so probably BS but at least we can dream one of the 8 are small heath Please, the report says Premier League clubs :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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