barry'sboots Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Last 5 Home league games Points: 1 Scored: 2 Conceded 8 Last 5 Away league games Points: 11 Scored: 8 Conceded: 4 What is the difference apart from our home games where harder. Why can we do it away when it is harder and not a home With the exception of Chelski we have got results away against teams below us and lost games at home to teams above us, except West Brom which was a wrong un because of the sending off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah spot on The Steve - I forgot to say Warnock takes a huge amount of unsung credit for shackling Kightly down the LH side when he came on. He was all over us first half. Agreed, he has taken some stick recently so its only fair to highlight the positive side of his game too. Credit must also go to our manager for the change too, if it had not worked out he would have been slaughtered! bollocks does mcleish take credit, if gabby had not being feeling unwell at half time the exact same team would have come out. credit goes to gabby for being poorly. mcleish needs to to take the blame for a suicidal satrting line up, he totally unbalanced the team with having a centre forward on the left wing again and then to totally ruin the left hand side he drops warnock and plays a very slow centre half in clark against one of the fastest wingers in the premiership. yet again he picked hutton over cuellar and hutton was beaten every time by jarvis but luckily for us collins got his head on almost everything. mcleish cost us this game from the begining and just got lucky as gabby was ill at half time and then karl henry decided to be a cock. the thing that annoys me as well is that if gabby was ill last night and not feeling great then what was the point in starting him in the first place. also with a few mins left when we knew wolves would be pumping balls in the box he brings on the smallest man in the world barry bannan mcleish is tactically useless and I have no idea what goes through his mind Jesus, what would you be like if we had lost! He changed to game with a substitution and tactical reshuffle and you are still trying to find a stick to beat him with. Be fair to the bloke. it was forced on him. he would have put the same 11 out if gabby was not ill How do you know? The answer is you dont. the answer is gabby was too ill to play the 2nd half, therefore he had to make a change And if Gabby hadn't been ill, why do you think he wouldn't have changed things around anyway as Clark at left back simply didn't work. Maybe he wouldn't have taken off Gabby (who probably would have played better without the illness), but how do you know he wouldn't have brought on Warnock for Clark as Clark was poor, or for Albrighton who had a poor first half, moving Clark to centre mid and Gardner to Albrighton's position. How do you know? Anyway, Gabby off might have been forced, but moving Clark to centre mid and bringing on Warnock certainly wasn't forced as he could easily have gone with several other possible options from the bench we had, Bannan for Gabby in a straight swap being one of them. The key was not taking off Gabby, it was moving Clark away from the left back and into centre mid, where he was very good. Warnock's introduction was a huge contribution to us turning it around, and Clark was the best midfielder on the pitch in the second half. Good decisions all round. Credit where it's due. The mistake was made way back in August when our idiot manager went into the season without a decent DCM. He wasted transfer money on Hutton when he could have got Clyne for less and brought in the always injured Jenas when he could have used the wage capacity to much better effect. Look what McCarthy did with Frimpong! But going into a derby away from home with a CM pairing of Stan - who struggles in a pair in any game - and a young an inexperienced Gardner was crazy. Playing youngsters in a pair with Stan is what has killed Delph. If he is going to play Stan he has to be in a three. We got lucky: - Gabby was ill so he had to take him off and took the opportunity to do what he should have done from the off and bring in a DCM with energy. - Frimpong got injured when he was running the show against a lethargic Stan. - Henry committed Hari Kari and got himself stupidly sent off. - Keano hit a couple of great strikes, BUT that was all he did do until the last twenty. Maybe he is rusty. Without these factors we probably would have come away with a loss and been looking over our shoulders. And this had nothing to do with McLeish having a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2012 The mistake was made way back in August when our idiot manager went into the season without a decent DCM. He wasted transfer money on Hutton when he could have got Clyne for less and brought in the always injured Jenas when he could have used the wage capacity to much better effect. Look what McCarthy did with Frimpong! But going into a derby away from home with a CM pairing of Stan - who struggles in a pair in any game - and a young an inexperienced Gardner was crazy. Playing youngsters in a pair with Stan is what has killed Delph. If he is going to play Stan he has to be in a three. We got lucky: - Gabby was ill so he had to take him off and took the opportunity to do what he should have done from the off and bring in a DCM with energy. - Frimpong got injured when he was running the show against a lethargic Stan. - Henry committed Hari Kari and got himself stupidly sent off. - Keano hit a couple of great strikes, BUT that was all he did do until the last twenty. Maybe he is rusty. Without these factors we probably would have come away with a loss and been looking over our shoulders. And this had nothing to do with McLeish having a clue. Im not saying McLeish is either a good manager or tactician based on the weekends game. What Im saying is its unfair to blame every defeat on his decisions yet claim outside forces seem to muddle him through every win. How I saw the game was that we were overrun in the first half, to the extent Wolves should have been out of sight, and this was the managers fault. However to claim it was solely down to luck that we came away with a win strikes me as nothing more than posting with an agenda. So what if Gabby was ill and had to come off? As you said it was not the fact that we changed the player that won us the game but the subsequent reshuffle, which has to be credited to the manager, like him or not. Most the points you mentioned happened after this point when the games direction had already been changed, thus were not the pivotal moments some would have us believe. Yes we got some luck but surely thats due! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Thoroughly delighted with an unexpected victory which could prove vital, especially given the results of those around us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 We got lucky: - Gabby was ill so he had to take him off and took the opportunity to do what he should have done from the off and bring in a DCM with energy. - Frimpong got injured when he was running the show against a lethargic Stan. - Henry committed Hari Kari and got himself stupidly sent off. - Keano hit a couple of great strikes, BUT that was all he did do until the last twenty. Maybe he is rusty. Without these factors we probably would have come away with a loss and been looking over our shoulders. And this had nothing to do with McLeish having a clue. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. I suppose Robbie Keane waltzed into the team unbeknown to Mcliesh? Will you use excuses such as injured players/sendings off/great strikes when we lose or will you be blaming the manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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