chrisp65 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I don't believe it's geographical. It's economic. Vale of Glamorgan in South Wales is tory, it's also supposed to be one of the nicest places to live in the UK with lots of twee country villages like St Hilary posh suburbs such as Penarth and tweedy once farming towns like Cowbridge. Add in high end jobs for the commuter belt of a largish city, earnings go up, house value goes up, people vote tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 17, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2012 Exactly. The Tories are the party of the middle class and above, they don't have a geographical base beyond being popular wherever people have a bit of financial security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Good for Scotland if they want to be independent. Clearly a country with more Pandas than Tory MPs doesn't want to be part of this Tory reign of terror. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Exactly. The Tories are the party of the middle class and above, they don't have a geographical base beyond being popular wherever people have a bit of financial security. Which is concentrated in the south/Middle of the country, with 1 or 2 apparitions. The vast majority of the weatlh in this country is in the south, hence where all the Tory support is. The further north you go, the more that wealth diminishes. Ditto the Tory support. It's a very sad, but distinctive correlation. Many, many people vote for (what they think is best for) their pockets. For who looks after 'their' interests. The 'self-interested' voter. Good for Scotland if they want to be independent. Clearly a country with more Pandas than Tory MPs doesn't want to be part of this Tory reign of terror. If that's not worth a 'Like', I don't know what is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I can see votes for YES from the hillbillys out in the sticks, places like Elgin etc but the hoardes along the M8 corridor will vote NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 "Hillbillys out in the sticks"? Have you ever actually been to Elgin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yes it's a 4 hour drive from Glasgow It's as remote as it gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted October 18, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yes it's a 4 hour drive from Glasgow It's as remote as it gets Hailing, as I do, from the Outer Hebrides, I'd have to take issue with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Don't make me get the Atlas out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It's less than a hour's drive/train ride to Inverness (and it's airport), just over an hour away from Aberdeen, a lovely town and what with being a stone's throw from the former RAF Kinloss and RAF Lossiemouth the local population isn't exactly anti-English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 4 hour drive from Glasgow. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yes, because Glasgow is the urban metropolis by which the rest of a country should be measured. Sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I once went there, and could not find any marbles at all. I was disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm sure Junners on South Street have marbles. They have a 1:1 scale Lego R2-D2, they're bound to have marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I like Auchetrader. Absolutely stunning around there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 18, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2012 I like Auchetrader. Absolutely stunning around there I'd never buy a used car from out of a paper though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 18, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2012 Which is concentrated in the south/Middle of the country, with 1 or 2 apparitions. The vast majority of the weatlh in this country is in the south, hence where all the Tory support is. The further north you go, the more that wealth diminishes. Ditto the Tory support. It's a very sad, but distinctive correlation. Many, many people vote for (what they think is best for) their pockets. For who looks after 'their' interests. The 'self-interested' voter. But that does not make them a 'Southern England National Party'. Which is a nonsense view - they support British interest, not necessarily 'Southern English' interest, and are 'for' anyone with some wealth. There is considerable Tory support countrywide, despite the fact that there is that correlation, they aren't even close to anything like a regional national party - for a start I don't think many people in, lets say Harrogate, vote for Plaid Cyrmu, but Tories get votes from Land's End to John o'Groats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 There was that Tory think tank that called to abandon the poverty-stricken north and expand London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Which is concentrated in the south/Middle of the country, with 1 or 2 apparitions. The vast majority of the weatlh in this country is in the south, hence where all the Tory support is. The further north you go, the more that wealth diminishes. Ditto the Tory support. It's a very sad, but distinctive correlation. assuming this map is correct , it doesn't seem to correlate your theory I thought London had a high % of Labour MP's and indeed even had a "sort of" labour Mayor until Boris arrived on the scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 assuming this map is correct , it doesn't seem to correlate your theory I thought London had a high % of Labour MP's and indeed even had a "sort of" labour Mayor until Boris arrived on the scene True, although the map does get progressively less blue the further north you go. Taking the UK as a whole, the blue areas are middle and south, and 'non-blue' of any denomination, are further north (or West to some degree). Obviosuly there is also a huge correlation between rural geographical locations (historically wealthy landowners and the like) and Tory support also. Again, that is an economic correlation. It's blue where the wealth is. The more industralised, urban, highly populated areas tend to be non-blue. Much smaller geographically but areas of high populace, and also areas of far greater poverty. Taking that map at colour face value, you'd wonder how the Tories could ever not win an election! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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